Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The hard-to-swallow truth about vitamin pills
Maclean's ^ | June 20, 2015 | Christopher Labos

Posted on 06/20/2015 11:07:42 AM PDT by rickmichaels

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-39 next last

1 posted on 06/20/2015 11:07:42 AM PDT by rickmichaels
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

Healthy people are bad for business.


2 posted on 06/20/2015 11:11:04 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: who knows what evil?
The cardinal rule in toxicology is that dose is everything. Any compound at high enough dose can be and probably will be toxic. There is no reason to expect that just calling a compound a "vitamin" means this rule will magically not hold.
3 posted on 06/20/2015 11:22:51 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels; AllAmericanGirl44; Armen Hareyan; B4Ranch; Balata; Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi; ...
I don't know about the rest of you, but I take D3 every day, as suggested by my oncologist. But this article has a different take on vitamins.

CANCER WARRIORS PING

This is a ping list for cancer survivors and caregivers to share information. If you would like your name added to or removed from this ping list, please tell us in the comments section at this link (click here). (For the most updated list of names, click on the same link and go to the last comment.)

4 posted on 06/20/2015 11:25:57 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

Don’t take tablets. They are nearly useless. Capsules and gelcaps are best. Don’t take multis, take the vitamins you decide you need, like C and D perhaps, or magnesium. You can easily test your D levels and adjust your personal dose.

And I’d be wary about supplementing iron right now as some new research is being discussed... Detriments of iron even that in “enriched” foods. At least read about it, as this is something new to worry about,
http://freetheanimal.com/2015/06/enrichment-theory-everything.html


5 posted on 06/20/2015 11:35:41 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

Eat right
Exercise
Reduce stress

Die anyway.


6 posted on 06/20/2015 11:39:17 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: uglybiker

How long we live and the quality of life is better and longer for most!


7 posted on 06/20/2015 11:40:49 AM PDT by geologist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

-


8 posted on 06/20/2015 11:43:23 AM PDT by Dante3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

Horrendous diets ! Many eat the wrong things in excess sugar, fats, etc., Usually it is haw they were brought up on French fries, and sweets, bacon, ham, hamburgers in total. Not good for humans to have more than occasionally.


9 posted on 06/20/2015 11:46:44 AM PDT by geologist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

This is complete bs. You will die if you take a bottle of tylenol. You will not die if you take a bottle of vitamin c.

Yes certain vitamins when taken in excessively large and unusual doses can cause problems, but most do not.

The big difference is that government does track “vitamin deaths” each year and most years it is ZERO, a few have one or two, and they are asterisked because the evidence linking them to the death is speculative at best. Compare this to the thousands of people that die from prescription drugs.

It’s a scare piece, a hit piece against people who want to use vitamins to supplement their health because it is a form of independence and it is very safe and easy. The RDA min requirements are set so low, they are absolute bare minimums. They are not optimal values for best health.


10 posted on 06/20/2015 11:49:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yaelle

Yes, capsules and gelcaps are absorbed the best. Yes.

Iron is usually only suggested if the person is anemic. Simple blood test can reveal it. But they still need to get to the source of the anemia, either it’s chronic (body not making enough blood cells) or specific (ulcer, bleeding inside somewhere)...


11 posted on 06/20/2015 11:54:07 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

Only one statement here. With Global Warming, “What difference does it make?”(/S)


12 posted on 06/20/2015 12:08:10 PM PDT by Mark (Obama Care is now DEMOCRAT CARE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels

80% of the healthy 80 year old geezers in this world have almost no stomach acid and have lost 30% of their muscle mass, 10-15% of their brains and a lot of their bone density.
We are unable to break out the amino acids, trace metals, and B vitamins we need without the stomach acid (achlorhydria).
Vitamin supplementation or intravenous infusion are the two ways to solve this problem.


13 posted on 06/20/2015 12:34:12 PM PDT by kruss3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yaelle

Regarding low iron. It’s rarely a problem with men. Also, if you are taking large does of C you will have much more efficient absorption of iron which can be a problem.

Some years ago my doctor had me on large doses of C. But my blood work showed my iron levels were too high (not good), so he said I had to either back off on the C or go give blood regularly.


14 posted on 06/20/2015 12:43:47 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels
Mainstream medicine in the US has conceded that vit D RDAs have been too low. The best thing is to have blood levels of D checked, which many docs do now as a regular part of physical.

Example: In her late 50s at the time my wife had a freak fall & shattered her wrist. Resulting in surgery & a plate in her arm. About a year before our family doctor had tested her D levels and said it was seriously low. She went on 50,000 units twice a week until level was in range & then stayed on 2,000 per day as maintenance.

Key point here: The orthopedic surgeon said that her arm healed faster than anyone of any age that had a similar break. In 4 weeks she was out of the (removable) cast). He said he expected even a young person to take 6-8 weeks to heal to the degree she had in 4. In his option it was definitely the D that was responsible. Her healing times for the usual cuts and scrapes have decreased compared to before.

15 posted on 06/20/2015 12:58:28 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man
You will die if you take a bottle of tylenol. You will not die if you take a bottle of vitamin c.

Apples and oranges.......

You'll lose a headache with two Tylenols, you'll keep your headache with two vitamin C's.........

16 posted on 06/20/2015 1:16:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (War IS the answer! Peace activists never liberated anything or anyone....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels
“Vitamins have become synonymous with health, but there’s this false idea that, if a little bit is good, a lot has to be better,”

Liberals feel the same way about government.

17 posted on 06/20/2015 1:18:31 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: uglybiker
Eat right

Exercise

Reduce stress

Have lots of sex

Die anyway. with smile on face.

18 posted on 06/20/2015 1:19:18 PM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ChildOfThe60s

The reason more and more people are deficient in Vitamin D is due to the air conditioner and heating systems we have in our homes. As we want to be cool in the summer and warm in the winter we tend to stay indoors. Vitamin D is a vitamin that is produced in the body with the natural occurrence of the sun. Want more Vit-D go outside more often, you don’t have to be a pro athlete to take in the rays. Don a pair of cool shades grab an ice cold lemonade and sit in the sun! A healthy dose of sun can do wonders for the body. And by the way, a healthy dose of sun does not give one skin cancer. Depending on how much Vit-D you need is how much time you should spend in the sun per day. Summer fun is for a reason and the sun is the reason for the season. Just like our kids need 60 minutes of play outside, adults need just about the same amount of time in the sun everyday or maybe a little more.


19 posted on 06/20/2015 1:27:35 PM PDT by zaxtres
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: rickmichaels
The original research article, which I read online, is focused on the use of vitamins for cancer prevention and therefore ignores other reasons to take vitamin and mineral supplements.

Some vitamin deficiencies are dangerously common, especially vitamins B-12 and D, as are deficiencies in micronutrients like essential fatty acids. In addition, common digestive disorders like celiac disease, non-celiac gluten sensitivity, Crohn's disease, and IBS and IBD, all tend to cause significant nutritional deficiencies that require vitamin and mineral supplementation.

Finally, common illnesses and drugs like statins and antacids can impair nutritional uptake and metabolism, while in other instances, supplements can help prevent or treat an illness. What doctor these days does not recommend supplementary Vitamin D and fish oil for older patients?

Nevertheless, as to cancer, there is valid cause for concern in that it seems that taking anti-oxidant supplements to excess may spur cancer by weakening the body's use of oxidative reactions in the immune response against cancerous cells. Moreover, Vitamin A spurs cell growth and may therefore directly aid the development and progression of some forms of cancer.

20 posted on 06/20/2015 1:32:31 PM PDT by Rockingham
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-39 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson