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To: Windflier
Yeah, I hear ya. I admit I'm more into the libertarian wing (I'm a Barry Goldwater type although I am pro-life), I mean, I don't care who marries who as long as both or all parties are at or above the age of consent. They can just make a contract in a civil case and find some church or whatever to marry them. I find the Obamacare ruling a little more troubling although the same sex marriage ruling I also see as bad law too. I did watch a good episode of "Welcome Back Kotter" Thursday night and the old, crotchy vice Principal Woodman commented on the SCOTUS porn decision at the time (this was 1977) when Epstein mentioned about community standards and Woodman countered, "what do 9 old men know about porn anyway?" The Sweathogs seem to agree. Not take porn and replace it with a lot of stuff and I say the same thing. I just find it ironic at the timing of the episode. I often ask myself, "What do these 9 old people know anyway?" Myself, if I had to make a ruling, I would say, "it is a State issue and/or let the people themselves decide."

I have gay friends, I have no problem if they marry. Hey go for it, knock yourselves out, you even have my blessing, I'm sure for many years this has gone on law or no law. What scares me is the SCOTUS decision is bad law where it could be used to force bakers to bake a cake even if it is against their religion or conscience to do it. People should not be forced to do anything against their beliefs, even if we disagree with it. What's next, forcing Quakers or Amish to serve in the infantry? America is, or was, a place where everyone has diverse opinions and practices where as long as we do not infringe on another or on society, we are free to do what we like and believe what we like. We are losing that. I have had trouble sleeping myself, even my left eye twitches, I'm up now.

I think the seeds have been planted long ago, some say as far back as Lincoln. Well, I think really, the big push in what we have now is in another bad law. The Civil Rights Acts, especially 1964. Yeap, I think they should have never been voted in. Same thing with the 14th, 15th, 16 and 17th Amendments, I digress and getting back to the point, because of the Civil Rights laws, it has given a license to everyone with a grievance real or perceived a way to get what they want if they cry like a baby and whine like a bad alternator bearing, They would cry, "you're violating my civil rights." Once that is said, then society and us must give in. It is the tool of bullies. No one should be bullied, be they Christian, Jew, gay, anything. I was bullied as a kid, being a typical space/ham radio geek with Asperger's. It isn't pleasant.

Ironically, I think voting in the Civil Rights Acts started this nation down the road where we will tear apart. Many times, I often said, it is like a Zen Buddhist thing where if you push for one thing hard all you do is achieve the opposite in spades. We are and will suffer for this, we seem to be in 1859 America in a 1938 world. We have the likes of Iran, the North Koreans, ISIS/ISIL (or whatever they call themselves this month) and so forth.

If I could go back in time, I'd do two things I know of, one stop the development of The Pill and two, somehow stop the Civil Rights Acts.

If I win the powerball for a huge amount of money, I'd find a ghost town somewhere and look for libertarians and conservatives who are sick of all of this to come and live there. We'd have out own radio station, TV station, shortwave station, police and even militia. We could set up our own shops, business and industry. We have our own schools and so forth. I remember seeing an old movie on ABC where Brian Keith played a multi-millionaire who founded his own town to give people a second chance who need it, I think we all need a place like this now.

I feel like I live in an alien land.
17 posted on 06/28/2015 12:51:00 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("I wish we were back in the world of Andy Williams." - My mother, 1938-2013, RIP)
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To: Nowhere Man
..."I remember seeing an old movie where a multi-millionaire founded his own town to give people a second chance who need it, I think we all need a place like this now.

Here's one in Garnet Montana


31 posted on 06/28/2015 1:35:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: Nowhere Man
If I win the powerball for a huge amount of money, I'd find a ghost town somewhere and look for libertarians and conservatives who are sick of all of this to come and live there.

Ping me! ;)

32 posted on 06/28/2015 1:43:23 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Nowhere Man

Regarding your last paragraph, that’s where John Galt and friends live.


36 posted on 06/28/2015 2:19:04 AM PDT by upchuck (There is no coexisting with those who want to destroy us from within.)
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To: Nowhere Man
Wind flier and Nowhereman..I am right there with you and, in my heart, I think most of America is. This revolution we are in is powered by a rich, elite, corrupt and immoral media who fancy dictatorship with them minding the store. All of this is based on lies fed to a nation which has been totally dumbed down through a brainwashing education system. Those who know about how our government was supposed to function have watched the corruption of it for about 25 years now. I have asked myself many times if all of our leaders are on cocaine. Do they not know they, too, will reap the whirlwind they have provoked? Are they so titillated at the thought of Christians in exile that their frontal lobes have stopped working? I know one thing. The fear in this population is palpable. At some point the line will be drawn and there will be no turning back from whatever happens then.
37 posted on 06/28/2015 2:54:03 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Nowhere Man

Here is the problem with the pink Mafia, they don’t want equal rights, they want SPECIAL rights and they intend to break the church and have the Gov rewrite the word.
I don’t care who does what and who does who until you start doing me.


58 posted on 06/28/2015 5:37:29 AM PDT by mylife ("The roar of the masses could be farts")
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To: Nowhere Man

A “Janet Reno” would come burn you all down.


141 posted on 06/28/2015 10:41:30 AM PDT by az wildkitten (7 years 'til I retire)
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