I propose Terminator V: The Bending.
Posted on 07/01/2015 1:25:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin
"In smashing together elements from the first two 'Terminator' movies with Digital Age anxiety over connectivity and privacy, the new movie is kind of like a wedding DJ remixing period hits with a modern beat. Which is to say, 'Terminator Genisys' is no fresh start — it's a mess."
Olsen continues, "could be Exhibit A in why the current line of thinking in Hollywood regarding sequels/reboots/remakes often leads to terrible decisions and worse films. ... The popular term is 'reimagining,' taking some things and not others, which in this case apparently really means not entirely thinking things through." Alas, he says, "bigger is not better, complicated is not the same as complex."
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In addition to the "busy-bee plot," Burr continues, it also suffers from "the underwhelming impact of the two leads. [Jai] Courtney is a bland stand-in for Michael Biehn's original Kyle Reese, and once you've witnessed Linda Hamilton's ferocious mama-bear intensity in 'Terminator 2,' [Emilia] Clarke's Sarah Connor can't help but seem a soft-bellied pretender in comparison."
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Generally I have found that the better a movie is the less advertising it needs. Word of mouth will push it.
Everyone has their opinion, but I really disagree with you. I loved Terminator Salvation. I bought the BluRay and have seen it five times. Not perfect, but darned good.
We enjoyed JW, but once again I went in expecting amusement, not Kubrick. I have-not seen either “Ted” movie and don’t intend to.
I propose Terminator V: The Bending.
The Bending. Gadzooks- No problem, Larry, I'm in as I can always... 
use the cash!
Well, this wouldn’t be the first thing Ah-nold ruined...
*cough*Cullyforneeuh*cough*
Wait, “Genisys”?
Ugh. I bet the “Syfi” channel can’t wait to show it.
It sounds pretty stupid, from what I gather from the trailer, John Connor is turned into a an evil cyborg.
I watched the TV show with Lena Headey as Sarah Connor, she did pretty well, doesn’t sound like her “Game of Thrones” co-star is living up.
When they first announced they were making another Terminator film, my gut reaction was “awww geesh Hollywood, didn't you do enough damage from the last two? Give this franchise a rest and stop trying to squeeze money out of it”
Then they announced the involvement of Cameron and Schwarzenegger, saying the film would be some kind of in-universe alternate timeline version of events of Terminator 1, where some new Arnold Terminator (played by present-day 67 year old old Arnold) travels back in time to 1984 and takes out the Terminator 1 Arnold Terminator (done with CGI to recreate the original film). Some teasers were released and my interest piqued.
Then some red flags were leaked and I started to get wary of the idea. T-1000 played by some unknown asian actor and gets taken out in the first 30 mins of the movie, guy they cast as adult John Connor looks and sounds terrible, Sarah Connor's nickname for old Arnold terminator is “Pops”, like he's a substitute daddy figure to her, etc. etc.
The reviews are out now and Genisys is getting WORSE reviews than Terminator 4! Eeek! Only 26% of critics have given the new one a positive review. While its possible the critics got it wrong and the film is actually decent, this is sounding more and more like a franchise killer.
I stopped watching “Terminator” flicks after T2, which is a masterpiece.
#Whocaresaboutthis
I seriously enjoyed the first two; Judgement Day was excellent as a sequal.
Third flick... was ehh...ok. The female terminator was a hottie.
I just don’t have any interest in this one at all.
“I just don’t have any interest in this one at all.”
Me either. I’ll call the distributor, and have it “terminated”
James Cameron was the reason the first two films were so great no?
Well he certainly did some great things as a director, but they both have good stories, and great actors. Lots of other directors could have made them good. The big “only Cameron” thing I will give him credit for is figuring out that if you do the big narrative dump exposition scene (traditionally “the boring part”) during a massive car chase people don’t realize they just watched 10 minutes of boring exposition. There’s an interview out there where he talks about figuring out that if you put a car crash or an explosion or some gun fire every 5 or 6 lines of dialog you can keep the audience from dropping into the “exposition lull”.
For a couple of weeks Ridley Scott was tied to T3 but that fell through. Which has always made me sad. Not just because I love Ridley, and the series already tends towards the blue saturation he loves so much. But also the symmetry with Aliens. And I think he really could have done it well.
Not just the script but his eye and direction of action. Kinetic and exciting but never with a loss of visual clarity. Very few other filmmakers can do that today.
I think they could today, but the MTV cut has gotten in vogue. Hard to get the old style past the studio anymore. Of course earlier this year Miller reminded us he can do that. But I’m not sure I trust Miller with plot AND action. He does pure plot well, he does pure action well, but Beyond Thunderdome says he doesn’t mix them well.
Of course you’ve got the old Cameron vs new Cameron thing too. I was really excited about Cameron coming back to SF, then I saw the Avatar trailers. Then I eventually saw the movie. It’s just not good. The current Cameron would totally screw up Terminator.
Terminator 1 - awesome. 80s classic.
Terminator 2 - awesome. First R rated movie I saw as a kid
Terminator 3 - felt like a bad parody of Terminator 2. Nevertheless, it was entertaining. Dumb, but fun.
Terminator 4 - CGI Arnold was good. Otherwise, zzzzz...
James Cameron is an advisor on the 5th one, unlike 3 & 4. However, he didn’t director or produce T5, and had no creative control over it. For what its worth, he says the film is faithful to his vision and is the “real” Terminator 3. But he’s probably under contract by the studio to say that.
Most of the reviews say is terrible and worse than T4. I did have one friend who went in with “rock bottom expectations” and was pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoyed T5. As for me, I’ll wait for it come out on video. I’d rather not pay movie for a theartical film in the slim hope that the critics MIGHT be wrong.
Don’t forget the TV show, which was really good. It’s a shame it never found its audience.
” I’ll wait for it come out on video”
I do a lot of this.
AS sequels go... honestly, I think there just comes a moment in time when you have to look at at it and leave it lay where it is.
Like the “Alien” saga. The second Movie “Aliens” was flat-out balls to the wall un-frigging-believably great - even as a standalone movie. Forget the political-correct bullshit running rampant in it, it was just one helluva good SciFi ass-kicker.
Same with Terminator Judgement Day; I thought it would hard-pressed to top the original Terminator, but it was great.
Aliens continued on, up to the “ALien vs Predator”. While that wasn’t a disaster, it was “already done... been there, seen that” by that point, and just ruined a really neat story.
Predator, by itself, was another great flick. Predator Number II, not so much.
And don’t even mention “Star Wars” or “Star Trek”... ugh...
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