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Donald Trump’s false comments connecting Mexican immigrants and crime
washington post ^ | July 8 | Michelle Ye Hee Lee

Posted on 07/16/2015 1:47:09 PM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

–Real estate mogul Donald Trump, presidential announcement speech, June 16, 2015


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; crime; illegals; trump
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I'm up for a good ass-kicking by my fellow freepers...

The above trump quote is inflammatory and totally unnecessary.

I am NOT defending illegal immigration. I do not believe I can stand behind Trump though.

Trump is alienating Mexican-Americans for no good reason.

Yes he has brought immigration to the forefront of the discussions and it is a much needed discussion. However he's doing it wrong. Any Mexican who has worked hard to become a citizen will be alienated from conservatives for generations because of some of these comments.

All I am saying is Trump is way overboard on this one....the only good it has done was to get others to start talking about it and to begin to fire up the base.

Cruz's support has been very calculated and I cannot disagree with anything that I have read Cruz say so far. For example Cruz said "I'll say this: I think Donald Trump is bringing a bold, brash presence to this presidential race," Cruz told reporters on Capitol Hill. "It's one of the reasons you're seeing so many 2016 candidates go out of their way to smack Donald Trump. They don't like a politician who speaks directly about the challenges of immigration. They don't like a politician who speaks directly about sanctuary cities, about the law enforcement and safety and security issues that are raised."

Trump is evil and good at the same time.

1 posted on 07/16/2015 1:47:09 PM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

I’m guessing you don’t live amongst them?


2 posted on 07/16/2015 1:50:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

EVERY i8llegal alien is a criminal.

They broke the law to enter illegally.

WaPo knows this — doesn’t it?


3 posted on 07/16/2015 1:51:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

I do know for a fact that a lot of Mexicans who ARE rapists, drug traffickers, and criminals are coming here. Just peruse the dockets for any district or superior courts for proof of that. I do know that EVERY district court session I’ve attended over the last 10 years has had at least a dozen Mexicans up for DWI. I do know that someone very close to me helped some Mexicans who are here illegally to process their shipment of black tar heroin. I do know that I’ve had to attend superior court proceedings about a dozen times over the last 18 months, and in every session, there was at least one Mexican who was up for “Indecent Liberties with a Minor”.

That’s just what I know. It may not be the norm for the Mexican community, but I know what I’ve seen.


4 posted on 07/16/2015 1:52:46 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: berdie

later


5 posted on 07/16/2015 1:52:54 PM PDT by berdie
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

What part of illegal do you find offensive? The fact is that illegal aliens far out of proportion to their population.


6 posted on 07/16/2015 1:53:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (INTOLERANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

What part of illegal do you find offensive? The fact is that illegal aliens commit crimes far out of proportion to their population.


7 posted on 07/16/2015 1:54:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (INTOLERANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

You libs need to go away. Donald Trump isn’t talking about Mexican Americans. He’s talking about illegals. People who have broken the law to stay here. There is a huge difference between those invaders and legal immigrants from Mexico or anywhere else. That you don’t seem to understand that says you are a part of the brain dead liberal hive mindset. You and all the rest of the liberals with R or D next to their names need to realize that anyone who breaks the law to get here, will have no understanding of the laws that exist here. Breaking laws is just what they do.


8 posted on 07/16/2015 1:55:40 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL ALIEN IS A CRIMINAL BY THE VERY FACT THEY ARE HERE. TRUMP IS RIGHT!!!!!


9 posted on 07/16/2015 1:55:43 PM PDT by upsdriver (Palin/West)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

80% of women and girls crossing the border reported being raped. That figure came from Fusion. The on-line news source of Univision.


10 posted on 07/16/2015 1:56:11 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Anne Coulter dealt with these statistic in an article yesterday. Basically the numbers quoted are fudged because the studies used compared illegal aliens to the most criminally prone non aliens. So they are no more likely to be criminals than the average criminal


11 posted on 07/16/2015 1:56:17 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3312803/posts

Illegal-Immigrant Sex Offenders Not Added to National Registries


12 posted on 07/16/2015 1:56:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (INTOLERANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost; FReepers; Patriots; FRiends







MR TRUMP HAS ALWAYS CITED ILLEGAL ALIENS! CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS!


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13 posted on 07/16/2015 1:57:39 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy has to be a troll. Has to be. He is nuts.


14 posted on 07/16/2015 1:58:26 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The crime statistics in these kinds of stories are b.s.

Many many cities, sanctuary cities for example, don’t forward their crime reports on to ICE or DHS.

And even if they did-—who would trust Obama’s DHS to give the real numbers?

Kind of like the IRS does? Kind of like the EPA does about global warming?

Kind of like the POS Obama himself does when it comes to workplace violence?

It’s all a load of crap, and besides....who the hell cares?

THEY ARE ILLEGALS!!


15 posted on 07/16/2015 1:58:32 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Go look at the top most wanted for cities such as LA and get back to us


16 posted on 07/16/2015 1:58:32 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (American Taliban - The Democratic Party)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Nope, Sorry read Ann Coulter’s column this week.

These numbers are BS. They are statistically incorrect, and are being dragged out by the MSM as a false narrative.
Read her column, and she explains how they were mis-sampled.

http://www.anncoulter.com/


17 posted on 07/16/2015 2:00:06 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Mexicans have been invading our country en masse, with the significant aid of the Mexican government, which has expressly been helping the least skilled and most criminal cross our borders.

No pols are addressing this and instead we get platitudes while open borders continue and tens of millions of new leftist voters are on their way to citizenship. It’s taken Trump’s plain speaking to break through and so it was necessary and good.

And these kind of cherrypicked stats are so misleading as to be false. Illegal immigrants from Mexico do commit crimes at higher rates than our regular, legal population. Sure, part of what makes the rates so high is that so many are single young men, but that doesn’t matter—they still commit more crimes than our citizenry, and even if the only crime they committed was to break into our country, they should be sent home.

Cruz is misleading as well, because he supports legalization for the 10s of millions of illegals here presently, and that would lead ultimately to close to 100 million new, predominantly leftist voters.


18 posted on 07/16/2015 2:00:30 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GilGil; the_boy_who_got_lost

The boy who got lost sounds like a fitting pseudonym for Jeb.


19 posted on 07/16/2015 2:01:18 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Come visit Eastern Washington or at least follow the newspapers online for this region. If their not killing each other with weapons, then they are killing and maiming themselves, their passengers, and the good people in other cars that are in the wrong place at the right time.

That’s not racist, its a fact. And yes I have several good friends who are of Mexican heritage.

Come to these cities and towns and watch how they prey on each other. Watch how they cram 3-4 families in a “converted garage” and charge them rent at prices you and I would pay for a nice newer apartment.


20 posted on 07/16/2015 2:02:39 PM PDT by shotgun
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