[DiogenesLamp]

No, I disagree with you about that. I don't think that those who signed the Declaration of Independence meant that if 3 out of the 4 families living on your street want to form an independent country, that they have a God-given right to do so. That fourth family has rights that you are ignoring.

If your objection is to a required size of the population, then I will put your concerns to rest. The Southern population was larger than the population of the Colonies when the Colonies left the British Union.

If your objection is that the desires of loyalists ought to override the will of the Majority, then I ask you what is your position in regards to the British loyalists when the colonists broke from the British Union?

This sounds like another example in which both positions cannot be true.

[Tau Food]

I’m not pretending that there was anything “legal” about our declaring independence from England. We were challenging the existing government. And, we expected a fight. And, we got a fight. And, we won. We overthrew the existing government in the Colonies.

[Tau Food]

There is no inconsistency between our war for independence and the attempts of some southerners to leave the US in the 1860's.

BOTH were decided by force.

I am suggesting that the next time someone wants to secede, that they try a different approach, an approach like Scotland pursued. Try it.