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No, we didn't change the rules. President Washington himself put down some rebellions.

The Whiskey rebellion is the equivalent of 11 states voting to secede from the Union? You don't even believe that yourself. Why would you put forth such a silly argument?

The rules have always been the same. There are existing governments. If you want to challenge or overthrow an existing government, expect a fight. You may win, but you may lose.

Your argument is still just an "appeal to force." I understand why you find this fallacy appealing, because you are seemingly not making any headway on the "reason" side of the argument.

The rules have always been the same until *we* changed them. We put new rules into effect, and we were the first beneficiary of the new rules.

Apparently we believed in them just long enough to benefit ourselves, and thereafter reverted back to the British rules.

I think that your argument is that there is something in the Declaration of Independence indicating that anytime any group of people decides that the government should buzz off, that the government has to respect their wishes. That's just not true and it never was true. And, it's never going to be true. That group of people either has to talk the existing government into leaving or force them to leave. You can't just ignore the interests of everyone else involved.

Your proposal would be totally unmanageable. And, you know that.

By the way, can I just be independent on every April 15? C'mon! ;-)