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To: DiogenesLamp
I think that your argument is that there is something in the Declaration of Independence indicating that anytime any group of people decides that the government should buzz off, that the government has to respect their wishes. That's just not true and it never was true. And, it's never going to be true. That group of people either has to talk the existing government into leaving or force them to leave. You can't just ignore the interests of everyone else involved.

Your proposal would be totally unmanageable. And, you know that.

By the way, can I just be independent on every April 15? C'mon! ;-)

902 posted on 08/03/2015 3:52:34 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
I think that your argument is that there is something in the Declaration of Independence indicating that anytime any group of people decides that the government should buzz off, that the government has to respect their wishes.

Why do you keep trying to marginalize their rights with derogatories like "group of people". 9 Million is more than just a "group of people." It is nearly three times the 1776 population of all of the 13 colonies combined.

That's just not true and it never was true.

Not the way you present it, because you have simply put forth a "strawman". The right to Independence was true in 1776. It was still true "Four Score and Seven years later", but the Union chose to deliberately ignore it.

You can't just ignore the interests of everyone else involved.

You tell me who's "interests" got ignored in a manner differently from what the founders did, and you might have a point.

I notice that you simply won't answer the question about your concerns for the rights of British Loyalists in 1776.

907 posted on 08/03/2015 4:08:53 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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