Posted on 07/26/2015 12:10:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin
As Forbes contributor Gordon Kelly reports, the problem revolves around a conflict between automatic updates and Nvidia graphics card updates using Nvidia’s ‘Nvidia GeForce Experience’—a handy tool for all Nvidia GPU owners. Basically Microsoft has taken control away from users, and made all updates mandatory—including driver updates. This is a decision meant to increase security and stability across the PC user base, but it comes at a cost.
Users are reporting problems with multi-monitor setups, dual-card configurations (SLI) and PCs not booting properly, setting off Windows 10 emergency recovery mode. More issues are likely to arise.
In other words, for a lot of PC users—and for Nvidia-GPU toting gamers in particular—Windows 10 could be problematic, especially at launch. Gamers are especially at risk given the much higher likelihood of that demographic running Nvidia graphics cards, as well as dual-GPU and dual-monitor setups.
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Microsoft wants to enforce uniformity like Apple does, but that ship sailed for Microsoft a long time ago when they adopted the IBM PC open architecture.
I've been monitoring my Windows 8.1 OS since I got it, and I suspect that Microsoft is using an underhanded approach to force users to update their systems.
It appears as though they download the new OS patches to your box, and then the system will start "acting up" [if you don't have "update automatically". I desire the actual update process to be under my control, so I'm one of these users.].
Since many users have been trained, like Pavlov's dogs, to "reboot" to clear up unknown system problems, this accomplishes their object.
I have experience in the field, so I start looking for what's causing the issues. Usually, the cause is "indeterminate". :)
I’m a bit of a gamer and Windows 7 has always been my choice.
It’s not like MS gets blamed for shipping insecure software if the user doesn’t do the updates and ends up belonging to somebody’s botnet.
My issue with this is if MS has a large update I want to decide when to download it. If I’m streaming a video and my sons are on net then I don’t want MS dumping on my PC.
I prefer AMD cards anyway.
Apple doesn’t mandate updates.
Yup— had drivers on multiple customers’ systems suddenly croak this past week despite updates being turned off.
M4L, when MS hits the fan.
What? I've been on Windows 8.1 for several years now, and I've never once seen or heard of this behavior myself or from anyone else. My system is joined to my lab domain and is updated using WSUS. Automatic updates are disabled. I have zero problems. If you have a serious issue, I suggest you post to TechNet or any of the myriad tech sites, because the behavior you describe is more like a virus or malware than legitimate operating system behavior.
I have to chuckle when people post this sort of crap to FR threads. I've been a Microsoft Certified Professional for a while now, and it never ceases to amaze me how people immediately point to Microsoft as the root of a problem.
Hint to ya, if you search any of the common search engines on the web and come across problems similar to yours universally, then it might be an OS issue. Since Microsoft (or Apple or Google for that matter) can't possibly account for the crap you're going to install on your machine, to blame the OS out of the box for your problems is like blaming auto manufacturers for your car troubles after you dump sugar in your gas tank.
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Removed the Asus GEForce 750TI SuperClocked video card and installed a cheap $30 generic card and the errors stopped.
Not very happy right now that the video card I spent good money on hoses my machine up every time updates come with the error above.
I don’t recommend anyone update to Windows 10 on their primary PC for at least 6 months after launch. If you have a “throwaway” or a lab environment with virtual computer capabilities, please, by all means, get it and learn. I think most people will love it.
It takes about 3-to-6 months of general release exposure to iron out all of the “show stoppers.” I doubt this nVidia driver update behavior will be an issue for long. I’ve seen more gaming systems borked after “nVidia Experience” has updated drivers than if you do it manually. nVidia has their own issues they need to iron out.
This is the same sort of issue that system admins have to address on servers. You can have an HP ProLiant or Dell PowerEdge server with the full complement of vendor-provided drivers, and there will be some stupid little problem with an IO setting or a RAID controller card. Microsoft will release a WHQL driver through WU, and if you install it, it might work with the OS, might even fix your stupid little problem, but it could bork ten other things with the hardware. Rule of thumb we follow is if you can’t get a driver from the manufacturer, only then should you experiment with MS drivers. By and large, they work fine, but vendor drivers are going to be tailored for the hardware.
Hey back in the early 80s I use to put Quarters in Galaga at the 7-11 after school. Thanks for the memories!
Good times!
Don’t toss it in the trash quite yet. I have no doubt they’ll iron out the BS in time. It’s not officially released yet either. You know MS is going to be puckered all week and quick to react to any issues from the early-adoption community at-large.
I actually prefer a Windows/Linux dual-boot configuration, but have to suffer with the travails of my main user base.
I have to chuckle when people post this sort of crap to FR threads.
Now, now - read my private mail, and all [most?] will be revealed. :)
If you have a serious issue, I suggest you post to TechNet or any of the myriad tech sites, because the behavior you describe is more like a virus or malware than legitimate operating system behavior.
If I have a serious issue, I'll ask myself. It's more of an annoyance, and it's not scumware, nor a virus. It's just something I noticed, as an individual with training.
Since Microsoft (or Apple or Google for that matter) can't possibly account for the crap you're going to install on your machine, to blame the OS out of the box for your problems is like blaming auto manufacturers for your car troubles after you dump sugar in your gas tank.
I minimize the footprint of foreign software on my main machine by spreading other software that I desire across my 5 other machines. :)
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