“They think women should be treated vulgarly just like leftists do. They are as against men acting like gentlemen and men just as much the left is.”
Notice the discrepancy in your terms there? Men should act like gentlemen, but women only have to be “women”. No expectation that they should act ladylike, if they want to be treated as ladies.
Sorry, I don’t buy that feminist double-standard. They can’t have it both ways. If she wants to be treated like a lady, she should abandon her feminism and I will treat her as such. If she wants to cling to her feminism and un-ladylike ways, then I have no obligation to treat her like a lady.
No, that’s not true at all. Ladies have a standard too. I just see Freepers arguing more against the standard for males. To a greater degree, they actually support the female standard, although b not completely in the traditional way. It’s common for Freepers to criticize females who are going against that standard.
You don't really understand conservatism. If a female is acting in an inappropriate way, that doesn't mean you should abandon your beliefs. You can act polite and then disassociate yourself. Then you win. If you allow her to drag you in the gutter, you lose.
You are actually siding with the feminists/leftists. That's exactly what they want you to do. They want you to abandon traditional roles and values and marriage for counter-cultural practices. So if you think you are rebelling or displeasing feminists by doing that, you are going to be disappointed. Because each time a man or a woman does that, the feminists/leftists got another win.
I'm a man, but I don't think we got here because of bad things done by men or by women. Leftists pushed certain things, and there are bad examples of both out there. But your solution is just surrender.
Being a gentleman is not being a sap. You control your own behavior, but you aren't obligated to but into any bad behavior. You just act polite and go your own way.
Bingo. Males didn't change their roles, females did. Collectively, females are to blame for today's societal dysfunction.