Not the NY scene - although I can understand that from the UK scene. As bad as things were because of Carter, they were really grim when Thatcher was turning the UK around since they had been socialists for decades rather than having 4 years of the peanut brain. We were all pretty open to other groups, not that we hung out with them but we had Hell’s Angels who came to our gigs and hung out with them at after hours club gigs. Pretty much anyone was welcome at least in the early days. Things did change later on though when more hardcore and skinhead bands started coming out.