Posted on 08/20/2015 7:04:09 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
I concur. No harm in learning that people aren’t always what they appear to be...and that there is a world full of enablers out there ready to defend the indefensible.
And after re-reading the article, I can’t help but wonder if the media savvy Duggars are the “family insiders” releasing this enabling, non quotable BS to uphold their Gothard lifestyle?
I hope Anna Duggars parents (or maybe a non-brainwashed friend if she has any one on the outside of this cult) gets her some legal representation. I can’t help but wonder if this sorta blame the victim trash talk isn’t more about pre-emptively saving Josh’s material assets in a divorce (see your Honor, she too was to blame!) than saving his soul, because I don’t think this bunch would dare utter the words “pre-nup” but I just feel in my bones they (Duggars, Inc.) want to protect Josh’s cash flow.
What a giant pant load of bovine excrement!
First of all, what do you mean by her “defrauding him”? Defrauding generally means “1. (Law) (tr) to take away or withhold money, rights, property, etc, from (a person) by fraud; cheat; swindle”. Are you saying that Anna Duggar withheld sex from her husband on fraudulent grounds? BTW, the article posted is based on speculation and some un-named “insider” source, not based anything that she herself has said.
Then again, she will take the blame because that is the Gothard way. Much in the same way they also believe that his molestation of 4 of his younger sisters and 1 other underage girl staying at their house, was in part the girls’ fault because they behave or dress immodestly and “temped him”, even his 4 year old sister who he groped and fingered her genitals on more than one occasion. Of course 4 year old girls are well known to be such sluts and temptresses and her 15 year old brother just couldn’t help himself because his 4 year old sister turned him over to Satan. / s In this BTW, they sound more like Islamists than they do Christians. Just saying.
Besides, if his wife Anna was following his and his family’s religious beliefs and following what her MIL and Bill Gothard has stated, then she AND her husband would have to abstain from sexual relations for 80 days after the birth of a daughter and 40 days after the birth of a son and during and for 7 days following her period and the night before worship (Saturday nights?). Are you saying that her following these religious beliefs gives him some sort of free pass for committing adultery?
At his Advanced Seminars in 1983, Gothard introduced sex regulations based upon Old Testament commands. Under the session titled “Six Purposes, Principles, and Keys To Fulfillment In The Marriage Relationship,” he told married couples to abstain from physical relations: 1. During the wife’s menstrual cycle; 2. Seven days after the cycles; 3. 40 days after the birth of a son; 4. 80 days after the birth of a daughter; and 5. The evening prior to worship.
Other than that however, the wife is supposed to “submit” to her husband’s sexual desires 24-7 even if she is sick or extremely tired, heavily pregnant….it is BTW, always all about him. No mention of course as to what happens if the husband does not desire his wife and withholds sex from her, understanding and submitting to her desires and needs, and yes, women have these needs too – but they mean nothing to these people. She and the other wives in this cult are nothing more sex toys for her husband’s desires and are basically a baby making machines.
If he was viewing porn on line and trolling for hook ups on the Ashley Madison site, looking for “conventional sex, experimenting with sex toys, one-night stands, sharing fantasies, sex talk.”, then of course, this was all his wife’s fault. / s
And it is a fallacy that most men who seek out porn and extramarital affairs (or those that sexually molest minors like Josh did) do so because their wives are not “putting out”. They more often than not do it because it excites them more than having loving sex within marriage with their wives. It is often not about “seeking sexual release” because they aren’t getting any or enough “putang” at home, but because they have a serious problem, a sexual dysfunction that makes the forbidden, the secret, the immoral or the twisted more desirable than having normal and loving and contextual sex with their wives.
It is a head-scratchier that so many defend a wife who does not desire her husband and then lambaste a husband who finds another outlet for his desire. Covenant vows are broken both by defrauding within the marriage and by failure to forsake all others.
Again they’ve had 4 kids in 7 years so I don’t really get how you get to - “a wife who does not desire her husband”. It is a real head-scratchier to me why anyone is still defending this perv and trying to put the blame for his long known perversions on his wife.
The Duggers now have an opportunity to live real family values in the storms of a dysfunctional situation that is the result of a myriad of sins. Sad for them that what ever happens will under the weight of shame in the public eye.
They themselves put themselves in the public eye by being (and making a lot of money BTW) from being TV “Reality stars”.
They, the Duggars are the ones who put themselves in the public spotlight in the first place, having TV cameras follow them and documenting for TV fame and for personal profit, all their most intimate moments in life – the “courtships”, the wedding ceremonies, the “first kisses”, the births of their babies, Jim Bob and Michelle talking in some great detail all about their sex lives, all on TV and on their FB and Twitter feeds, etc. These people are IMO addicted to fame and the income they get from it. They have heavily used TV and social media to promote themselves as being a highly moral family, one we should emulate. But then when the “reality” of what they say and what they actually do and how they live doesn’t match who they are and how they actually conduct themselves in real life comes back to bite them, all of a sudden, they want everyone to respect their privacy.
There are far more women who cheat than many realize.
I was seriously involved with a Christian woman - reaching a point of discussing our future. Eventually I discovered she was in a long-term adulterous relationship with a married man with 2 kids who was a deacon at her church.
In hindsight, her 2 divorces should have been a bigger red flag but it’s hard to believe a “Christian” would be such a liar.
I’ve learned my lesson well...
Agreed.
I’m sorry, but your post if full of if statements that have no basis in the facts as we know them, and then you make a statement at the end that assume to be true that which has no basis in the facts as we know them.
“If she has been defrauding him”
“If she is confessing that she did not keep her vow “
And then you finish:
“It is a head-scratchier that so many defend a wife who does not desire her husband and then lambaste a husband who finds another outlet for his desire. “
Your post is bizarre. What words did she speak that you take as a confession that she “also made a vow to have and to hold which she seems to be confessing she habitually broke” in an article in which she is not even quoted?
This may be the dumbest post I have ever read. The woman had 4 children in 7 years. How exactly do you think ol’ Josh was being ‘defrauded’?
“Christians” and “non-Christians” are sinners in equal percentage.
That's an interesting and quite reasonable possibility.
Well said.
Reports are that she’s committed to her marriage, to her children and is relying upon her faith. Those are all positive things. I’m surprised and saddened to see her character and motives impugned as well. Her husband has major problems and has humiliated her, but she’s sticking with her vows. I don’t get the attacks.
If Josh molests one of their children, will she be charged as an accessory? I don’t care what their cult believes, she needs to get her kids away from him.
If only her husband was.
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