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1 posted on 08/25/2015 6:33:42 AM PDT by conservativejoy
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Mr. Bankruptcy???

Yeah. OK. Wanna buy a bridge?


2 posted on 08/25/2015 6:36:39 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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So much for wanting real free trade and bringing businesses back to this country, by making the business environment better in this country, by lowering taxes, regulations and government spending.

Hey let's become more like China and have government controlled consumer taxes, a.k.a tariffs.

4 posted on 08/25/2015 6:56:02 AM PDT by FreeReign
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There appear to be a lot of freepers who are willing to pay the premium to get American made goods as opposed to Chinese.

If this is true of the population as a whole, then there should already be American companies meeting that market demand. I should be able to walk into a store and see the Chinese made toaster for $20 and the USA made toaster for $35.

Personally, I don't think one in fifty would pay the $35 for a locally made toaster......unless the Federal Government forces the price to that level, which is what Trump and his fans apparently want to happen.

6 posted on 08/25/2015 7:01:16 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (Will Trump make the trains run on time??)
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The tariff would raise the price of imports from the country to which it is applied but would yield substantial tariff revenues that would more than compensate for the high prices.

Tell that to the consumers who are paying it.

Trump plans to build a wall to keep out illegal immigrants and plans to deport illegal immigrants, which would open many jobs to unemployed Americans. This would increase the opportunities for unemployed and under-employed Americans.

The jobs that most illegals perform are low-skill, minimum wage jobs. Trump also wants to reduce the minimum wage. So it's hard to see exactly how it will improve the conditions for unemployed and under-employed. Companies could do that now my merely raising the salary they're willing to pay.

8 posted on 08/25/2015 7:06:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I like my idea.

How about government leave businesses alone to do what businesses do best? Supply and demand is a proven success. But I do like the balanced trade agreement thing. We shouldn’t give other countries’ corporations preference over our own.


9 posted on 08/25/2015 7:24:14 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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One big fly in the ointment are the big retailers.

Several years ago I watched a documentary about WalMart and it’s tactics.

WalMart demanded Rubbermaid sell them it’s product at X dollars.
Rubbermaid said it wasn’t possible because the price quoted by WalMart would bankrupt Rubbermaid.

WalMarts response was to call each store and pull all Rubbermaid products from the sales floor immediately.
They also cancelled all undelivered orders.

Weeks later Rubbermaid not only accepted WalMarts offer, but rebated the product then sitting in the stores back rooms.

Rubbermaid ended up laying off most of their US employees and shifting production to China.

When I would go back to work after my home time, I would often pick up OTC meds in North Carolina.
Those loads were usually “drop and hook”, I would drop an empty trailer and pick up a loaded trailer.

One day I arrive to get a load and the load wasn’t ready.
I waited.
The next day, still no load.
The plant finally sent someone to see us.
WalMart had cancelled all orders from the company *nationwide* in order to “negotiate” lower prices.

In the next year or so that OTC company started production offshore in order to meet WalMarts price demands.

WalMart alone has sent millions of jobs overseas.
I completely stopped shopping at WalMart about six years ago.

Sam Walton is dead and his Buy American campaign died with him.

Yes, I will, and do, pay a slightly higher price for Made in the USA products.


11 posted on 08/25/2015 7:58:20 AM PDT by oldvirginian (A proud CRUZ CRAZY and VRWC member)
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More than 40 years ago in my high school and even grade school history classes we studied tariffs, embargoes and how they leveled the playing field, prevented predatory pricing, smoothed the economy but also raised prices and the pros and cons of protectionism.

Basically, some regulation of international trade is a good and proper thing. Trump is right, for too long we have been the fool at the the negotiating table.

My own primary education seems like the turn of the century 8th grade education compared to today. You know, that example 8th grade test with all the difficult questions that nobody today can answer. One example:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2895447/posts


13 posted on 08/25/2015 8:05:09 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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I’m a little disappointed that America Thinker somehow equates stock market fortunes with the economy. The market has rocketed higher ever since the Messiah took office - so does that logically mean the last 6 years have been an economic success?

The paper trade market really is a poor reflection of economic reality and instead is a creature of delusion, rigging to distribute from smart trader to dumb ones, and a recipient of a mass of public money.

There is far more value found in private companies for instance.

We don’t really have a good barometer of economic conditions since all statistics are managed heavily by the government, but the public I think knows a good economy from a bad one instinctively.


17 posted on 08/25/2015 8:29:28 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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Fortunately, Trump says he’s a free trader, though you need smart leadership for it to work—and he believes himself to be smart leadership.

This tariff stuff is too reminiscent of the trigger to the Great Depression.


30 posted on 08/25/2015 9:51:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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