Posted on 08/27/2015 4:20:21 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
Not America...Americans. For the U.S.-elite who profit from worldwide cheap labor, there is no more America, and Americans don't matter except for being consumers. Which is why Tariffs would work.
Maybe it’s a language or definitional problem. CNN, what is a ‘trade deficit’? Please explain it in your own words.
Now, CEW, watch it [I believe CNN and CentVA are actually a group of people trolling FR on behalf of a union donor] dodge the question just like a Lefty. They don’t have any stinkin’ definitions, nor do they want clarity. Clarity calls for thinking, not just emoting.
Baloney.
I have NEVER supported any union.
You lie, bigtime with that.
They see only bright lines, even when it means bowing to the whims of anti-American bureaucrats at the World Trade Organization. They oppose any trade limitations, even if we must depend on foreign countries to feed ourselves or equip our military.
They see nothing but dogma - no matter how many jobs are lost, how high the trade deficit rises or how low the dollar falls.
I’m tired of buying cr** from China.
To be honest I Sometimes wish there was a STEM union, the H-1B visa program is an abomination and needs to be fought tooth and nail and a strong STEM lobby might do the trick.
The grocer wants to kill you and every time you spend money in his store he uses the profit to buy weapons for himself and his friends who also want to kill you. They want to take your house and rape your wife. So yes by all means keep sending money to China.
We were told that products made in China were going to be cheaper. Well they were right; they are not cheaper in price, only in quality.
I am not talking about central planning. I’m talking about a long term view that isn’t skewed to change voting demographics.
A perfect long term view would be to do as much as possible within the purview of the Constitution to get government the hell out of everybody’s business. Incentivize business where it has authority and stop its intrusion where it has no authority under the Constitution.
It is no accident that China has relaxed its views on capitalism, entrepreneurship and the like over the last few decades.
Who sets the long view? Central planners or individual Americans exercising their individual liberty?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
We have less than a quarter of their population.
China practices China-first in business, does not allow foreign ownership (true ownership) it is always just a 49% minority, and their entire “immigration” fiasco is China-first.
Only ethnically Chinese, can immigrate there.
We are foolishly selling out our very own nation.
1. Americans don’t “set their long view” The Federal Government does that by the debt it creates, the devaluation of its true currency worth through borrowing and intrusion in every aspect of their lives - in every area, and in making international deals of every flavor without benefit of oversight.
2. At this point in time, Americans have no “individual liberty”.
Your grocer on your side of the border grows produce in highly regulated fields where the soil is tested, the fertilizer is tested, the machinery is tested, the transport is tested, and the workers are your neighbors who are paid like you. Across the border, that grower is pooping in the fields, nothing is clean, the machinery is decrepit, and they're paid subsistence wages.
Your grocer wants to sell across the border to your foreign counterpart but that government says no, they can only buy from their own grocers. But that government wants their grocers to also be able to sell to you. Your government says okay, and then they sell their groceries for $50 because they don't inspect the soil and manufacturing process, and they don't pay their workers the same wage.
-PJ
Trade surpluses or trade deficits don’t need to be “fixed”. Not overall and not with any one country. I like Chinese cheap goods and I want to keep getting them. I don’t want to subsidize having Americans give me a more expensive product. Do you want the US to be a textile driven economy or one that actually has high paying jobs?
Correction, Mr. Drezner: Those technological innovations and productivity increases could have more easily occurred right here in the USA, were companies in the USA not so shackled by government regulation and high taxes.
Productive American citizens and productive American businesses are being sucked dry to feed growing populations of sub-human parasites who are fed by the parasitic government -- and some of those parasitic sub-humans are the wealthy crony communists of the Democrat and GOP establishment, media and entertainment, government unions, etc., who are fighting to keep the cronyism gravy train running.
In their view, the American middle class is a threat to the global economy.
I completely agree.
We have traded one challenge (unions) for a larger challenge (Communist China - with now a larger export base than even America).
We still do not have rights in China. Americans cannot truly own anything there, the jobs are done by Chinese, and we cannot even immigrate there, yet our businesses are all going, nevertheless.
I don’t understand, and I don’t agree.
Donald Trump is the ONLY person anywhere, saying it.
He’s it.
How many restaurants have you dined at again after getting botulism? Let the cheap goods enter America. I love saving money. All year long I enjoy fruits and vegetables despite the fact that most are not grown here or in sufficient quantities.
In the particular cases you cite even consumers know to wash their fruit. Once it was discovered that the Chinese had made sulfur laced drywall, nobody would buy Chinese drywall and the American mfgs thrived. No government intervention needed.
I just want to make ‘one’ point. People, no matter where they live, want to get the biggest bang for their dollar. Fine that’s great, wonderful even, however to do that they need to have the money in the first place.
The best way to do that is with a Job that can pay all of your bills plus have enough left over to spend on the things that can make life more enjoyable. Like clothes to keep you warm in the winter or clothes to make you look more attractive to the opposite sex, etc.
If you send all of the high paying and then the middle paying and finally the lowest paying jobs out of the country then it’s either welfare and the EBT card or do without. And frankly the EBT card will only work until all of the taxpayers and lenders of money to the government have no more left to tax or lend.
And then my FRiends... you have a failed country. Venezuela or Zimbabwe for example. Both were once fabulously rich in resources and ability to find work. Now look at them... failed social experiments at best or more accurately put; successful Kleptocracys.
That's way too simplistic an example of whats going on between China and USA, starting with the notion that America is just a 'customer' and not a competing marketplace.
CNN, you and me started this thing on Free Republic, it looks like we are getting a lot of converts or patriots who are feeling it is ok/safe to speak up against 40 years of disastrous gloBULLism. Some times it is ok to pat yourself on the back.
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