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The Sunoco station down the road has removed these stickers, but the Hess station has not..yet.

E15 is coming at us whether we like it or not.

1 posted on 09/01/2015 6:41:56 AM PDT by Ouderkirk
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To: Ouderkirk

Looks like I will be buying a lit more of 93 ethanol free.

Damn the engine killer bureaucrats and the lobbyists that own them.


2 posted on 09/01/2015 6:43:29 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Ouderkirk

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/30/aaa-e15-gas-harm-cars/1735793/

AAA says this is a disaster for older cars.


3 posted on 09/01/2015 6:43:42 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Maybe the gas DOESN’T contain ethanol?

What with gas approaching $2.00 a gallon, it’s more expensive to add that corn oil in than sell good ol’ regular gas.


6 posted on 09/01/2015 6:45:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Ouderkirk
That makes all the pandering of Iowa voters all the more sickening. Damned dirty subsidies for corn farmers.

Yeah!, Yeah!, I know. "What? You don't want people to eat corn?" "You want people to starve?"

Blow it out yer ear. Corn Welfare is not about feeding the world. It's about funneling tax dollars into the pockets of Iowa corn farmers.

Bunch of cornholes.

7 posted on 09/01/2015 6:45:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Ouderkirk

Um, I just read a week ago that gasoline prices were rising a little bit because refineries shutting down to cut over from their Summer blend (with ethanol) to their Winter one (without it) was constricting supply.

So are you sure that the sticker isn’t gone because your gas station isn’t now on no-ethanol Winter blend?


11 posted on 09/01/2015 6:52:12 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Ouderkirk

Unfortunatley the nearest Southern States gasoline station that still sells pure gasoline is too far for me to drive to regularly get it.


12 posted on 09/01/2015 6:54:14 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Ouderkirk

You have it backwards. The labels said “up to 10%”. If there is no sticker, there is no alcohol. If there IS alcohol, it is false advertising and illegal to remove the stickers.


16 posted on 09/01/2015 6:59:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Meanwhile, here in the police state of New York I can happily tell you of all the Stewarts shops (Local convenience store chain who is very good to the community) has had 91 octane ethanol free gas for some time. Yes it costs more, but worth it to me. Mileage wise I make the same in the end as the improvement in performance makes it worth taking better care of the engine with it.


20 posted on 09/01/2015 7:10:53 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Ouderkirk
What's wrong with ethanol?

Where can I buy Pure-Gas?

30 posted on 09/01/2015 7:36:47 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: Ouderkirk

Dunno what the deal is there, but try and find a store that sells ethanol free gas.

We have one about a mile from my house, and this place does some serious business as a result.

My lawn equipment and generator loves the stuff!


31 posted on 09/01/2015 8:01:03 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Ouderkirk

They are not only removing stickers from gasoline...

Labels are being removed that state the origin of food and products.

Labels are being removed that states if chickens are range-free, beef is range-feed, grains are GMO-free.

Americans should have an informed choice in what we eat.


33 posted on 09/01/2015 8:13:07 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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If the recent report that E10 stickers are being removed from gas pumps spreads, here’s what some of us more paranoid types suspect is going on. Some of us believe these removals are designed to implement the next step in a devious bureaucratic ploy to – unbeknownst to the general public – move those former E10 gas pumps to E15! E15 (15% ethyl alcohol or ethanol) CAN and HAS damaged or destroyed engines in older vehicles. Unfortunately, given the sad state of the knowledge/interest level of the current government school “educated” populace here, many of those vehicle owners won’t have a clue as to why “Old Betsy” (or, per a recent TV spot, “Brad”) gave up the ghost. Let’s step through this E15 push based on a “Que bono” (who benefits) analysis.

According to Wikipedia, the ethanol program began in the late ‘70s under Jimma “Contrived Energy Crisis, Put a Paper Bag Over Your Head to Stay Warm” Carter and gained momentum, as all these things do per my recent “Perpetual Motion” rant, under Democrats AND Republicans.

OK, let’s enter the dark, mysterious realm of PARANOIA!

Vehicles with damaged/destroyed engines will be off the road until repaired (if possible) or replaced. Their removal from the roads gives the obozo’s ecofreaks’ desired reduction in their “carbon footprint” baloney. A win for obozo and his ecofreak supporters.
The citizens who own those damaged vehicles will be limited in their free mobility, forcing them to use the public transportation historically relied upon by tyrannies as a means of control of movement of their populations. The poor – for whom obozo and his “progressive” pals exude such compassion – will bear the brunt of the economic pain as they struggle to replace their rides. A win for obozo.
After a cost benefit analysis by citizens who can afford to do so, many of the vintage vehicles will be replaced by NEW ones. Those who opt for American produced replacements will positively impact obozo’s worsening – by design – GDP and unemployment numbers. A win for obozo.
Then, of course, there are the largely corporate agribusiness farms where all this ethanol producing corn is grown. While the field corn used is not a desirable foodstuff, can someone give me the name of the “genius” who thought it was a great idea to devote millions of acres of good land to raise this stuff to burn it in our cars and trucks after fermenting it into ethanol (actually “moonshine”, making this government program the world’s largest bootlegger) but that’s a topic for another day. Another que bono topic for another day is how the loss of that acerage for food corn significantly reduces the food available to reduce starvation in the Third World. Oh wait. Obozo, Hillary and their fellow “humanitarian” Democrats are big fans of Margaret Sanger and others who believe 7 billion humans – and many are the wrong race – on the earth are too many.
But I digress.

If you’re still asking who would do these things and why, let’s examine what obozo’s EPA has recently been up to.

The EPA was involved in the release of huge soil or toxic waste releases in Lake Oconee in Georgia and the Gold King Mine in Colorado. There have been other such events (not widely reported or investigated by a complicit leftist media) some of us paranoid types believe to have been intentional as make-work schemes for the busy little bureaucrats at EPA while, at the same time (in other busy work make-work schemes) the EPA is citing and fining land owners for such horribly environment destroying activities as – wait for it – constructing PONDS on their PRIVATE PROPERTY at the same time they are literally drying up California to save some 2” long fish downstream.

Let me wrap up with this.

In addition to all the alleged “benefits” obozo and his minions feel these activities accrue to him and his fellow “progressives”, there is one more very personal benefit for obozo: Each and every one of these actions causes pain for the Americans who are beginning to push back against his orchestrated plan to DAMAGE or DESTROY THIS COUNTRY! “Take THAT, you ungrateful riffraff!” If those actions cause some of HIS people (and I mean his supporters of ALL races and ideologies!), so be it. Can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs, right?

That said, I’ve come to believe that “His Stridency, King Obozo” has over-stepped BIG TIME and it’s begun to backfire on him and the RINOs who have rolled over for him with each new abomination (did I spell that right?)! We’ll know if that’s the case come November, 2016.

Final thought: Just because I’m paranoid DOES NOT mean “they’re” not out to get us!


50 posted on 09/01/2015 9:54:20 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Ouderkirk

so may I ask an ignorant question. I have a diesel car.

I know I cannot use the colored diesel, but I use the diesel with the yellow or green handles at the pump.

Some places it is called “bio-diesel”. But there is nothing on the pumps that say that ethanol is in the diesel. So what makes it bio-diesel and different from colored diesel except for the dye?


57 posted on 09/01/2015 7:40:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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