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2015 Chase for the Cup Thread
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Posted on 09/15/2015 7:57:46 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit



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To: Chode; nascarnation; SgtBob; McGruff; umgud; al baby; The_Sword_of_Groo; ican'tbelieveit; ...
$5 part failure knocks Johnson out of the Chase: It will go into the theoretical faulty part hall of fame, season-ruining wing, the right rear axle seal that on Sunday at Dover International Speedway helped eject six-time series champion #48-Jimmie Johnson from the Chase for the Sprint Cup after one round. It'll be near the display the for cracked cylinder head that cost Jeff Gordon a 111-point lead in the standings with four races left in the 1996 Sprint Cup season and preceded a Terry Labonte comeback for the championship. The broken suspension piece that sent IndyCar driver Juan Pablo Montoya into the wall at Iowa Speedway this year - he lost the points lead and title to Scott Dixon on tiebreakers in the final race - will be mounted soon. And so the Jimmie Johnson display will follow, proving yet again, that every little thing matters in racing. And sometimes the little things matter a lot, even though, he said, "We take for granted how indestructible these cars are."
"We didn't expect an axle seal would be the culprit and take your championships hopes away (but) it's racing," he said. "I've had mechanicals take me out of championships growing up that led to success for myself and I'm sure helped me with a championship or two. It's just part of racing. It just shows how critical everything on a race team is and how critical every component is. You can't take anything for granted. Heart-breaking for sure, but there's nothing we can do about it."
Johnson estimated the axle seal's cost at $5. Kevin Harvick crew chief Rodney Childers agreed on that as its fair cost, but said the sums NASCAR teams pay for some semblance of peace of mind and pieces of quality price it at about $50. Race cars are made of thousands of bits and pieces, many of those parts crafted within team race shops, some purchased in bulk from vendors with the assumption and hope, that one bad batch or one bad component within that lot doesn't fail at a crucial point to ruin in a season of work for drivers and mechanics alike. (10-6-2015)
121 posted on 10/06/2015 5:36:59 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: Chode; nascarnation; SgtBob; McGruff; umgud; al baby; The_Sword_of_Groo; ican'tbelieveit; ...
Official Dover Race & Points Report(pdf)
122 posted on 10/06/2015 5:41:09 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: mabarker1
For Want of a Nail...
123 posted on 10/06/2015 2:46:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
LOL Yep

Dad had a section of copper water pipe with a nail in it mounted on a plaque in the shop from a Sheetrock job they were doing at the Church. He was driving the last nail before Tape,Float & Texture and found the pipe! One of the Guys gave it to Him as a reminder.

124 posted on 10/06/2015 3:44:48 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: mabarker1

damn, that could have been expensive if the water was already on


125 posted on 10/06/2015 3:50:32 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

The water was on but got shut right off. The sucky part was it was the LAST nail. But it got fixed right then.

That Damned Murphy guy again.


126 posted on 10/06/2015 6:43:28 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: mabarker1
the only guy you can ever count on
127 posted on 10/06/2015 7:05:25 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: tubebender; mabarker1; ican'tbelieveit

Say it ain’t so, Joe!!

DRIVERS WONDER IF HARVICK’S BURNOUT HINDERED INSPECTION
By Kenny Bruce | NASCAR.com | October 06, 2015 at 07.45 PM

RELATED: Harvick wins | Bruce: Pressure produced another gem from Harvick

CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Was it a preventive measure or nothing more than another long, smoky celebration?

Kevin Harvick’s dominating victory in Sunday’s AAA 400 at Dover International Speedway took the Stewart-Haas Racing driver from the brink of elimination in this year’s Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup and put him squarely into the Contender Round of the 10-race playoff.

His celebratory burnout, which concluded as the back of his No. 4 Chevrolet made contact with the wall, has raised questions about damage done to a winning vehicle before it is loaded up and transported, by NASCAR officials, back to the sanctioning body’s research and development center in Concord, North Carolina.

“I did?” Harvick said when asked about the incident during Tuesday’s Chase Contender Round Media Day gathering at the NASCAR Hall of Fame. “I didn’t even know.”

Told that some believed the contact was intentional and a way to circumvent NASCAR officials discovering anything amiss, Harvick seemed amused.

“I knew how to knock my car back into compliance by rubbing it up against the wall,” he said, grinning.

RELATED: Harvick’s ‘walk-off wins’ among clutch moments in sports

Whether Harvick was on the level or simply going with the rumor of the day, drivers have taken similar measures in the past to hide automotive trade secrets.

“Oh yeah, absolutely,” 2012 Sprint Cup Series champion Brad Keselowski said when asked if drivers have intentionally damaged their cars after winning.

The reason, he said, is simple.

“Because of the way the tech (inspection) process works.

“The cars aren’t (inspected) the same way at the track as they can be … at the R&D Center,” the Team Penske driver said. “It’s been going on for a long time. I’m not making any accusations. … It’s not anything new to this sport.

“I’ve definitely blown tires out. I think every driver has done something to do some kind of damage to their car.”

NASCAR officials inspect each car three times during the course of a race weekend at the track – the initial inspection before practice gets underway, again prior to qualifying and a third time before the start of the race.

The race winning entry, runner-up and a random selection are also inspected at the track following each race.

Typically, those three cars are then transported to the R&D center for a more detailed inspection that is done each Tuesday.

“You don’t want to discredit anyone’s win because what he did was really, really impressive,” Joe Gibbs Racing driver Denny Hamlin said. “But obviously, as all the other competitors, whoever doesn’t win each week wants to make sure they’re on a level playing field with whoever did win.

“Me, going forward, I would like to see some kind of way of insuring that our cars all stay intact for the R&D Center because right now, the R&D Center is kind of a moot point if guys tear up their cars.”

JGR teammate and fellow Chase competitor Carl Edwards, who finished 15th at Dover, said he didn’t see anything related to Harvick’s post-race celebration.

“I don’t know what happened there exactly,” Edwards said. “I’ll say this, that car was extremely fast and it’s a shame they tore it up. A car that fast, you don’t want to tear it up.

“They’re performing very well and you’re going to have to beat those guys. They’re getting it done.”

RELATED: Where does Harvick rank in Power Rankings Presented by Sprint?

The consistency and the speed shown by Harvick’s team during the last two seasons have been impossible to ignore. And it’s what most teams trying to beat the defending series champion have tried to attain for themselves.

“That’s what was good about the 4 car last year and that’s what’s been good about them this time,” Richard Childress Racing driver Ryan Newman said. “He had two failures (at Chicago and New Hampshire) and then a complete success. Questionable but complete. … I don’t need to say anything more.”

No matter the driver in question, Newman said, “I don’t think destroying a race car is at all respectful to anybody. I’ve never personally done it, never had the need to.”

It’s a constant tug-of-war, the battle to push the envelope and work in the ever-shrinking gray areas of the rulebook without getting one’s hands slapped. A team might be doing something that isn’t specifically outside the rules, but if it’s working, you don’t want to give officials the opportunity to reel your team back in.

“NASCAR’s really smart, and the teams are really smart, and they’re constantly battling each other to outsmart each other,” Hamlin said. “So it’s always a game, and the game never stops from when you leave the shop until you get to that R&D Center.”

Harvick, safely into the next round, isn’t fretting over all the chatter. His team won, he celebrated, and it doesn’t get much simpler than that.

“The thing about it now is people expect that,” Harvick said of the post-race burnout. “ … Back in 2003 was the first time that the rear tires blew off the car at Indianapolis down the frontstretch. That’s not something new. It’s just something that’s been fun.

“These things are hard to win and I enjoy celebrating and (I) am going to burn the tires off.”


128 posted on 10/06/2015 8:47:49 PM PDT by happydogx2 ( Her eyes were beautiful, her soft wet kisses were heavenly..but to be honest she had me at "woof")
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I think this had more to do with it:

with 24° banking in the turns and 9° banking on the straights

I would be backed up against the wall too.
129 posted on 10/06/2015 9:13:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: mabarker1; tubebender

Why do I get the feeling that if I were tube’s wife I’d be dead??? :)


131 posted on 10/07/2015 4:37:04 AM PDT by happydogx2 ( Her eyes were beautiful, her soft wet kisses were heavenly..but to be honest she had me at "woof")
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I heard the Obama Administration Department of Injustice was looking into the case.


132 posted on 10/07/2015 4:37:48 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: mabarker1
Cheating??? naaaaa say it ain't so... nutscar
133 posted on 10/07/2015 4:43:30 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mabarker1

I got one with an air nail on the last piece of floor trim in a closet behind the WATER closet uggggggg


134 posted on 10/07/2015 10:10:51 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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It’s always the last nail/screw. UNNNGH!


135 posted on 10/07/2015 10:12:47 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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Alert: Race is Saturday with an unusual Qualifying on Thursday! In the morning. Make your picks tonight!

Well, we have entered the Contender round (spoiler if you didn't know it: Harvick squeaked in):

1 Matt Kenseth
2 Joey Logano
3 Denny Hamlin
4 Carl Edwards
5 Martin Truex Jr
6 Kurt Busch
7 Jeff Gordon
8 Brad Keselowski
9 Kyle Busch
10 Ryan Newman
11 Dale Earnhardt Jr
12 Kevin Harvick

Welcome to the 2015
Nascar at FR race thread!

Series Race Track Qualifying Time
Channel
Race Time
Channel
Bank of
America
500
Charlotte
Motor
Speedway
Thur. Oct. 8
7:20 PM ET
NBCSN
Sat. Oct. 10
7:00 PM ET
NBC
Drive For
The Cure
300
Charlotte
Motor
Speedway
Fri. Oct. 9
4:45 PM ET
NBC Sports Network
Fri. Oct. 9
3:30 PM ET
NBC Sports Network
No Race



FRFL’ers: Deadline to select drivers for this week is:

Thurs. Oct 8 at 5:00 AM ET ( 2:00 AM PT)

Jayski site for race prep info

Remember, you can join anytime! Let us know if you are interested.


May God Bless our Troops, their families, and our Nation
The FR Canteen


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136 posted on 10/07/2015 8:12:14 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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137 posted on 10/07/2015 11:30:42 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

TURKUAZ ►► Chatte lunatique

138 posted on 10/07/2015 11:36:17 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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Starting Lineup
139 posted on 10/09/2015 4:03:54 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice; al baby

Yep, never fails


140 posted on 10/09/2015 4:08:57 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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