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IT IS TIME TO STAND UP AMERICA
Self | 10-16-2015 | Paratrooper82

Posted on 10/16/2015 9:42:55 AM PDT by paratrooper82

For years Americans have warned other Americans about the government confiscating their firearms, taking their property rights away under the guise of climate change (agenda 21) and have built secret reeducation prisons around the United States to imprison Americans who do not support this out of control government. Of course these Americans were called “black helicopter conspiracy nuts” and the “tinfoil” crowd just to name a few of the disparaging name calling.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: article5; constitution; government; people
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To: paratrooper82
I hate to rain on your parade - and as I said, I'm for an Article V - but check your history books. IIRC, congress has simply taken no action to call said conventions, even after a majority of states made an application to do so.

Article 5 of the Constitution states: “The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments…”

21 posted on 10/16/2015 10:55:37 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: PATRIOT1876
I agree! The seat of all government is local! If the American people can become engaged in their local government and vote the liberal socialist and the GOPE RINO’s out and replace them with good patriotic Americans then the way forward is downhill from there!

Stay safe my friend!

22 posted on 10/16/2015 10:57:48 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN Alfa Team Leader 2nd civil war is coming to the USA)
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To: just me

We all have to die sometime. Take as many as you can with you and your life will not have been lived in vain.


23 posted on 10/16/2015 11:03:15 AM PDT by beelzepug (liberalism is not...a political philosophy. It is a stage of arrested emotional development.)
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To: paratrooper82

Your libertyforlife article contains the following statement: “Shortly after Bush orchestrated 9/11, ...

Do you personally believe that Bush orchestrated 9/11?

The credibility of the article is seriously brought into question with the Bush orchestrating 9/11 comment. That you support the statements and post it as true calls your credibility into question.


24 posted on 10/16/2015 11:06:49 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
just one of four articles I provided to you, and yet you jump on a single sentence in only one article.

Of course I don't believe Bush orchestrated 911, the main subject of the article is reeducation camps! We were discussing “reeducation camps” you do remember that don't you? I provided four articles that you yourself could have searched yourself, but, for convenience sake, I did it for you and now you want to call into question a sentence in one of the four articles as though the “reeducation camps” don't exist in America and my credibility over a statement in one article.

It's clear that it makes you feel better believing reeducation camps don't exist in the US, so believe what you want to believe. Challenging my credibility over a single sentence in an single article if both shallow and will take more than a single sentence about Bush in a single article to effectively challenge my credibility.

Your credibility is called into question since you did not provide any evidence that reeducation camps don't exist!

There is always one in ever crowd!What really pisses you off is I came up with the proof of the existence of reeducation camps in the US and you don't like it!

25 posted on 10/16/2015 11:25:52 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN Alfa Team Leader 2nd civil war is coming to the USA)
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To: paratrooper82

My read: there is not going to be enough power to do it unless Americans return to God, in a relative sense; that never can be perfect on earth but it has dwindled badly in recent decades, until little bulwark against evil was left.

Solely secular resolve is going to find itself at odds, as one faction concentrates on this corner of the Constitution, one faction concentrates on another corner, etc. and there is never a stable balance.


26 posted on 10/16/2015 11:47:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: paratrooper82

The lesson is, be careful what you cite to back yourself up if part of it IS tin foil.


27 posted on 10/16/2015 11:48:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: paratrooper82

You came up with nothing, pt82.

Perhaps you’re pissed off because the truth that you don’t bother to read the articles you post is clear and was made obvious to everyone else reading your commentary.

There was not a single shred of ‘evidence’ in the articles you posted. Just statements about existing facilities. No proof whatsoever.

Post a picture of the Alaska base with housing for 2 million internees.

I’ll be waiting. But I won’t hold my breath.


28 posted on 10/16/2015 11:58:30 AM PDT by dmz
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I believe Paratrooper82 was trying to educate you on the “reeducation camps” and did not care about whether Bush was responsible for 911 or not!

That was your insertion into the discussion not paratrooper82’s!

What he (paratrooper82) should take from this is that some people look for an argument and when confronted with the facts simply refuse to accept them.

29 posted on 10/16/2015 12:55:56 PM PDT by americanparatrooper (Remember your forth point of contact in a PLF and cover it)
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To: dmz
I never even heard of the reeducation camps paratrooper82 is talking about until his post, but, I did not dismiss it out of hand like you did.

I did a simple google search and found these videos online and a summary of the camps in question:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

I don't know if this is all staged, but, here are some pictures that you demanded from paratrooper82.

I doubt you will except them as proof either. I won't waste any more of my time showing anymore.

Once a person has made up their minds they don't exist, nothing and I do mean NOTHING will change it, even if you were placed in one.

30 posted on 10/16/2015 1:02:13 PM PDT by americanparatrooper (Remember your forth point of contact in a PLF and cover it)
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To: americanparatrooper

I didn’t bring up the Bush / 911 thing first.

Nonetheless it being in a supposed supporting document pulls a question over the whole thing like these “reeducation camps” that I am supposedly being “educated about.” Can’t any confirmation be had apart from tinfoil?


31 posted on 10/16/2015 1:07:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: americanparatrooper

Someone questions, immediately you have to impugn and call names.

That hardly bolsters your credibility.


32 posted on 10/16/2015 1:08:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: americanparatrooper

Your information about the location of the camps is the same as what the other poster posted.

And I dismissed nothing out of hand. Look at the dates of the articles. This has been out there for several years now. I’ve watched the FEMA camp videos. You’d think there would be new and specific info about these camps, but it’s just the same stuff rehashed again and again.


33 posted on 10/16/2015 3:35:57 PM PDT by dmz
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To: basil

3% of us are with you.

They are going to have to kill gun owners because we won’t give them up voluntarily. I tried to explain this to a coworker the other day after he asked me if I cared more about guns than “women’s health care.”

I told him “hell yeah!” He could hardly believe it. Of course, I then explained that when his kind say “women’s health care” they really mean abortion.

Have you even seen a conniption fit? I did :)


34 posted on 10/16/2015 3:37:12 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck ( NOTE TO RNC: I will not be voting for another Bush. Ever. No matter what his last name is.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

LOL!

What is that old saying…they can have my guns one bullet at a time….


35 posted on 10/16/2015 4:59:17 PM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: paratrooper82
I dunno if there are FEMA camps or reeducation camps or any validity to any other conspiracy floating around, but what I do know is our gubbamint is not our friend.

What I do know is this gubbamint is hell bent on eroding our liberties. I know for a fact that they are spying on every American citizen.

What is a certainty is this gubbamint has/is putting foreign interest, illegal aliens ahead of it's own citizens. Appears to be attempting to collapse our way of life by intentional fiscal mismanagement. Cloward Piven comes to mind. Spend our country into collapse in order to usher in another style of gubbamint, one that has firm control over it's citizens.

Open borders, legal immigration are meant to water down and or alter voting demographics to accomplish some of what I've just laid out. Marginalizing our constitution by flooding this country with foreigners who have NO allegiance to this country or our founding documents.

There is an ongoing effort to alter history, just as has been done in all totalitarian societies of the past. Brain warshing the young as to the history of this nation so they, in their own minds, marginalize the constitution.

Promote homosexuality, transgenderism, abortion, promiscuous behavior and rid society of all mention of God so no one...no one has to feel guilty for immoral behavior.

Relentless onslaught against the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th amendments to the U.S. constitution. Militarizing local law enforcement under the guise of the war on terror.

Folks...lets stop bickering among ourselves. No one person has it all correct. Some believe things because our gubbamint has given them/us reason to be distrustful. In many cases the gubbamint will foment disinformation in an effort to keep the American people off kilter.

Ever heard of...”In a state of fear”? Gubbamint propaganda designed to divide, cause confusion and or all of the above.

One thing is for damn certain and I don't believe many will argue...WE CANNOT TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT! Period.

Just as JFK conveyed in one of his last speeches before being murdered. Secrecy is repugnant in an open and free society...(not an exact quote).

Regardless of differing views/opinions/beliefs...we need to close ranks and stick together. The future will not get any easier.

36 posted on 10/16/2015 6:35:58 PM PDT by servantboy777
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