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To: Swordmaker
Please show me any smartphone in 2007 that had larger multi-touch screen than the 3.5" screen on the revolutionary Apple iPhone. Please.

Wow! You had to go back to the original iPhone to try to reply to my point, BUT!!!!, the point was/is that, Apple was late to the larger than 4 inch screens that Samsung and Microsoft and others had been doing for about 2-3 years before Apple noticed that, people were actually buying those bigger screens devices in huge quantities. Heck, Apple was even against the idea of bigger than 4 inch screens a couple of years ago.

Apple Car Play? And Siri?

Well, fined and dandy, but, while there may be a bunch of car models that can be equipped with Car Play, chances are that, the vast majority of purchases of those cars will choose not to get Car Play, since, it would be very limited by Apple's intervention and control of the technology. Also, Apple's share of the smartphone market, while significant, is lower than Android/Samsung/Google. Why limit yourself when you can get a better and more significant infotainment system from Google and others?

Then, Siri? Are you effing kidding me? When the much better voice assistants are made by Google and Microsoft, why settle for third best? Heck, I doubt anybody would make the decision to go with a car that has Siri inside, if they were to first get a taste of Cortana or Google Now?

And, why also settle for third best when there are much better mapping apps from Google or Microsoft?

When it comes ultra-high-definition screens, well, they were around for a bunch of years before Apple decided to include them in one of the Mac computers. Fact is that, there were others that considered adding 4k screens with their PCs, but felt that it was overkill for most applications and for most people. It still is overkill, since, there aren't many apps or applications that can take advantage of that kind of resolution. It was mostly gimmicky and a way to create a refresh-cycle for their iMacs.

When it comes to fingerprint ID, well, my point still stands, that,Apple didn't invent it. It was another gimmick after it proved to not a bit problematic in the first iteration of the tech in their iPhones.

I don't fault Apple for not being first in most innovations that they later do put to use. They do like to wait for tech to first be proven in other devices, before Apple implements them in Apple tech.

Oh, I forgot to give them credit for one of the greatest 'innovations'; ever, perhaps even bigger than the invention of the wheel, and that's the idea of 'round corners' for their iPhones.

Yup! Apple, the greatest 'innovator' of ideas or inventions that were previously existing.
40 posted on 11/22/2015 7:48:21 PM PST by adorno (w)
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To: adorno
Well, fined and dandy, but, while there may be a bunch of car models that can be equipped with Car Play, chances are that, the vast majority of purchases of those cars will choose not to get Car Play, since, it would be very limited by Apple's intervention and control of the technology. Also, Apple's share of the smartphone market, while significant, is lower than Android/Samsung/Google. Why limit yourself when you can get a better and more significant infotainment system from Google and others?

Boy, the Apple HATE is strong in you. It is the CAR MAKERS who make the selection of what is controlling their car audio systems, not the buyers of the cars. These are FACTORY STANDARD SYSTEMS, adorno. Those others do not have contracts with the car makers to supply the systems. Apple does. . . haven't you been paying attention?


Some of the automobile makers already contracted with Apple to use Car Play in their Automobiles
as of the beginning of 2015.

Apple has been developing Car Play for about five years. You just blithely IGNORE facts, don't you?

When it comes ultra-high-definition screens, well, they were around for a bunch of years before Apple decided to include them in one of the Mac computers. Fact is that, there were others that considered adding 4k screens with their PCs, but felt that it was overkill for most applications and for most people. It still is overkill, since, there aren't many apps or applications that can take advantage of that kind of resolution. It was mostly gimmicky and a way to create a refresh-cycle for their iMacs.

You love to distort facts, adorno. The 5K screens were extremely rare. Dell was selling a 24" 5K MONITOR for $2499 when Apple introduced the Apple iMac 5k for $2495, a computer which came compete with a built-in 27 inch 5K screen, a full iMac computer capable of displaying natively to that 5K screen, with a 1 TB Fusion drive (128GB SSD matched with a standard HD), Quad core Intel processor. . . etc. In other words, Apple was selling a full SYSTEM for what Dell and other were selling just the 5K monitor. . . and you are talking about "others considering" doing it. . . Give me a break. How idiotic can you get?

When it comes to fingerprint ID, well, my point still stands, that,Apple didn't invent it. It was another gimmick after it proved to not a bit problematic in the first iteration of the tech in their iPhones.

More of your specious claims. the TouchID did not prove to be problematic in the first iteration on the iPhones. Some guy claimed to have been able to get around it using a rubber fingerprint casting but no one was able to replicate his claims. It turned out he was using his own iPhone and a casting of his own fingerprint on his own finger and the TouchID was reading the ridges of his fat pads THROUGH his thin casting and through his finger skin! His technique did not work for anyone else, or on any other iPhone. No one else who tried it could get his system to work. . . because they tried it with a blind test. You have no evidence of such a "problematic first iteration" because there a couple million of those first iteration TouchID's in the wild working perfectly well with no one compromising their security. You just pulled that out of your rear from old FUD.

And, why also settle for third best when there are much better mapping apps from Google or Microsoft?

I love how you people who do not use Apple Maps can make such a judgement based on four year old data. . . and who do not use Apple Maps and condemn it out of hand, when those of us who use all three find it quite competent to do the job, and in some cases, better.

Oh, I forgot to give them credit for one of the greatest 'innovations'; ever, perhaps even bigger than the invention of the wheel, and that's the idea of 'round corners' for their iPhones.

Apple never claimed to have patented "round corners" on their iPhones. That was a FUD claim put out by SAMSUNG in their patent infringement defense for public consumption which YOU obviously have swallowed hook-line-and-sinker. When anyone gets a "design patent," the drawing will show the design, including such thing as "rounded corners" and black slab rectangles, and include a description of what the design is. The "rounded corners" are not "patented" but the overall design, "look and feel," and appearance ARE patented. It was SAMSUNG who claimed that Apple had patented "rounded corners" and the judge slapped them down for doing so. . . in court. She told them the case would be tried before the jury not in the court of public opinion and to shut down their publicity campaign, because it was an attempt to prejudice the jury! Obviously it worked on dim-witted people . . . apparently, like you.

Have you covered all your FUD memes, adorno??? Try harder. I'm sure you'll think of some more.

41 posted on 11/22/2015 9:57:56 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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