Posted on 01/19/2016 10:46:33 AM PST by conservativejoy
It goes to show, when you tangle with a guy who is incredibly smart, and was a national debate champion while at Princeton, a guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1995, and a guy who's sponsored over 97 conservative pieces of legislation in the Senate, said guy is not going to back down nor get into the hemming and hawing which other candidates have descended into. Silly Molly Ball has said the in-fighting is all part of a "portrait of a party on the verge of coming apart," which is the type of fable that we see many times during election season. This is what's called "robust debate"
(Fox News) Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz launched one of his toughest attacks yet against fellow contender Donald Trump in New Hampshire Monday night, accusing the billionaire real estate developer of being "nowhere to be found" during during the debate in Congress over whether to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants.
"If you didn't stand up and fight amnesty, when the stakes were live or die, do we lose this permanently or do we win, I would suggest as voters you have reasons to doubt the credibility of the promises of a political candidate who discovers the issue after he announces for president," the Texas senator said at a town hall meeting in Whitefield.
Let's not forget that Trump has called for amnesty even while declaring he'd built the border wall. Trump has been pretty crystal clear in his support for amnesty.
Cruz also questioned whether Trump is a true conservative, noting donations he's made to Democrats over the years, including $50,000 in 2010 to Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, the former chief of staff to President Barack Obama. And Cruz rejected Trump's self-comparison to Ronald Reagan, saying he was "pretty sure" Reagan never supported or made large donations to Democrats.
One can understand donations from a businessman to a candidate, attempting to curry favor in a race which was going to go Democrat 100%, but, $50k? And not that long ago.
"Donald Trump has said he thinks eminent domain is fantastic and he supports using government power to seize private people's homes to give them to giant corporations to say hypothetically build a casino," Cruz said. "We have an obligation to protect the rights of Americans and private property is central to the rights of Americans."
Trump agreed with the Kelo decision "100%". Trump has recently stated that he only supports eminent domain "when it creates jobs". While taking private property for private use. Is that a conservative position?
(The Hill) "If he's giving checks to Democratic politicians and he supports their views.. then it starts to suggest, 'gosh if he publicly supports their views if he finances their causes,'" Cruz told Boston radio station WRKO. "Then suddenly when he announces as a candidate for president, every single one of his views changes - listen if he has had a change of heart, I am thrilled."
Cruz, who is competing with Trump for the GOP nomination, added that if Republican voters want a nominee who will "cozy up to Chuck Schumer - by the way he's written checks to Chuck Schumer, I never have - then you ought to be backing him."
Trump tried to attack Cruz on his loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank, to which Cruz responded
"You want to assess who stands with Wall Street? Then look at the actual records of the candidates," he added. "Donald Trump vocally and enthusiastically supported TARP, the bailout of the big banks. He vocally and enthusiastically supported Barack Obama's stimulus plan."
While Donald certainly has many Conservative/Republican positions, he also has many Leftist positions and squishy Establishment Republican ones, as well. And, for all Trump's bluster about 9/11 after Cruz hit him with NYC liberal values, it seems as if Trump did not give to 9/11 charities. Nor does Trump give all that much to charities in the first place, at least not his own money.
Trump should be praised for attacking Democrats harshly, rather than tiptoeing around, as Republicans so often do. He should be praised for refusing to back down when the media and Democrats start whining, something Republicans usually do. But, is he really a Conservative? He has some good positions. He also has some bad ones. Rubio is being destroyed by Conservatives for his Gang of 8 illegal aliens legislation. Why is Trump getting a pass?
Cruz is losing Iowa. Just look at his face. It tells.
Let’s not forget that Trump has called for amnesty even while declaring he’d built the border wall. Trump has been pretty crystal clear in his support for amnesty.
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Lying sack of crap.
How long is it going to take any of them to discover this issue?
I believe it is true that the issue of birth-right citizenship and ILLEGAL immigrants has not been decided..
all that's documented are comments by justices (obiter dictum) which had no bearing on the issue being decided.
Children born to foreigners owing unswerving loyalty to a foreign sovereignty (diplomats for example) are in fact excluded already.
What's the big deal about applying that to ILLEGAL aliens? Besides children born of Americans in foreign countries are American citizens.
It’s so interesting to see a thread titled;
“Cruz Hits Trump On Amnesty, Liberal Values”
...on the FR front page with this one;
Barney Frank Praises Ted Cruz For Position On Gay Marriage
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3385669/posts
I wonder how Cruz will explain away all those videos and interviews and statements that say the opposite of what he now maintains on immigration, amnesty, deportation.
From 2014 - Ted Cruz on States rights. Barney Frank.. well being bawney.
Sounds like Cruz has gone DTS and is mirroring the nasty Cruzers here on FR.
I guess that’s what happens when you’re losing.
“I believe it is true that the issue of birth-right citizenship and ILLEGAL immigrants has not been decided.. “
Because of Ted Cruz, it’s about to be.
Cruz has given the left more ammunition than they ever needed over this birth issue. Between him and Obama we will have foreign born and anchor babies running for president from here on out.They are now using him to completely get rid of ‘natural born’ altogether.
Just out:
It’s time to remove the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement from the Constitution
Starting to sound like the TrumpRepublic...
“Ted Cruz on States rights”
That is exactly Trump’s position on gay marriage - it’s a states rights issue - and he gets crucified for it.
Yes thanks. The two issues are tied together.. but IMO deserve separate cases.
What a slimy little weasel.
“Starting to sound like the TrumpRepublic...”
Not a bad idea, there!
How pathetic. Cruz largely avoided immigration issues (other than favoring large increases in legal immigration) from his March 23rd announcement until Trump entered the race in late June and made immigration a top issue.
Cruz is performing some of his most impressive flip/flops ever trying to catch up and pretend that he’s tough on illegal immigration.
Wonder what his TrumpaThons would look like?
The same as he did before. Cruz will have Sessions and Lee come out on his side. Why beat a dead horse? Are you going to argue with Sessions on immigration? Good luck.
Letting the “good ones” back in using an expedited system is touch back amnesty, a policy that will create millions of new Democrat voters.
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