Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: Windflier
Winston Churchill was, like Cruz, born outside the US to a US citizen mother and a foreign national father.

Is Churchill then less of a NBC than Cruz?

Does it seem reasonable that Churchill could have run for the US presidency legally as Cruz claims he can??

I like Cruz! But when you consider that Churchill was born under similar circumstances it feels less certain that Cruz is a NBC.

If Cruz can get a certification by congress of his NBC status or a federal court rules in his favor then I want him to someday become president...IMO his best shot is serving first as Trump's VP.

Churchill was born in Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England, on November 30, 1874, to Lady Randolph Churchill (Jennie Jerome), who was born in the United States, and to Lord Randolph Churchill, a British citizen. Hence, Churchill was like Cruz born out of the United States to what Cruz would consider a U.S. citizen mother and a non-U.S. citizen father.

BTW, I'm NOT blowing smoke up anyone's ass here! I do really like Cruz... If it were all up to me and I got to choose the next president I would choose Cruz. He's very smart, I don't think he is actually a supporter of amnesty...having no funds to run a campaign forces him to give lip-service to big donors dreams of an open-border... but I seriously doubt he would please those donors once he was in office. (all candidates lie to get the $$$ to run) I don't think he could win in the general though...but after serving as Trump's VP I think he could end up as president. Trump could even resign office early and elevate him to the presidency.

I'm all in for Trump because I think he is the only one that can actually win against the dem candidate...whoever that ends up being... but I am fond of Cruz and hope that he can someday serve as president... he is young still and has plenty of time. I do admit he has made a few mistakes lately that have made me wince (like the bromance with loser Beck and the vote-shaming silliness) OUCH! :-(

I'm saying a prayer that freepers can come together after Trump wins Iowa Monday! The Trump supporters should refrain from too much gloating...I know it will be hard to do. I will be making posts hoping that Trump and Cruz decide to kiss and make up after the Iowa results are in.

4 posted on 01/30/2016 9:09:33 PM PST by Bobalu (I told you so!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Bobalu

I would like to see Trump and Cruz fight together. I with you, I think the NBC would be a big issue in the general election.


13 posted on 01/30/2016 9:35:16 PM PST by mouse1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

To: Bobalu

I say Trump wins Iowa, by 10%- or more. I won’t be gloating or spiking the football, because I am very confident and have no need to denigrate the field. I’m glad and thankful that the Cruz supporters have stopped the attacks and insults (for the most part) on the Trump rally threads. Cruz HAS an NBC issue. Plain and simple. HE needs to get to the bottom of it. Either we are a nation of laws or we aren’t. Cruz diminishes his chances the longer he allows the issue to drag out. He invites enmity and causes derision, by allowing a cloud of doubt to swirl about his credentials. For that, he is directly responsible, and earns the ire of the voting faithful. A bad decision- in the end. Not very presidential. Dude! Either you are NBC good to go- or you are not. Put up or shut up.


14 posted on 01/30/2016 9:41:54 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhowrallies at a time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

To: Bobalu
...when you consider that Churchill was born under similar circumstances it feels less certain that Cruz is a NBC.

I honestly don't know how anyone with any intellectual integrity can possibly claim that being born in a foreign country to an American mother and a non American father qualifies one as NBC.

No one's arguing that Ted isn't a citizen of this country - only that he's not a natural born citizen of this country.

NBC is the purest pedigree of citizenship there is, i.e., born in country to two citizen parents of that country. There is absolutely no question that the Framers intended that the office of President be restricted to only those of that birth condition.

If that wasn't their intention, they would have had no need to insert the 'grandfather clause' into Art II Sec I (which enabled those of the Founding Generation to hold the office).

23 posted on 01/30/2016 11:32:54 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson