Florio: Manning-Brady Debate Would Get New Life With Broncos Super Bowl Victory

CBS BOSTON ^ | 01 FEBRUARY 2016 | CBS BOSTON

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Felger & Massarotti were joined by Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio on Monday afternoon on radio row in San Francisco, and he discussed what’s at stake this Sunday in the Super Bowl for Peyton Manning.

“If Manning gets to 2-2 all time in the Super Bowl, Tom Brady’s at 4-2, Manning’s got all the records now, do you have a potentially vigorous debate as to which is the best of all time?” Florio asked. “There’s going to be people out there that throw asterisks on Tom Brady’s championships. That’s one of the beauties of sport, it’s like politics and red state/blue state, people have their minds made up. But I think you give the pro-Peyton Manning people more ammunition when they can say, ‘Yeah, Peyton won two, but he won them fair and square.'”

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Manning, hands down. Brady needed help in 3 of his 4 SB wins with Vinateri and that interception. Brady lost twice to the NY Giants.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Sorry about the quotes thing - I did use that Smart Quote website and thought it converted it.

[lacrew]

Bradshaw

[RightOnTheBorder]

There is actually a Manning/Bradshaw debate. Which one has been in the most ridiculous commercial. I say the shingles commercials have put Bradshaw over the top but Manning still has a lot of good years in front of him.

[g.i.joe]

Bradshaw
Exactly. 4 Super Bowl wins in 5 years when QBs didn't get any special protection. And neither Brady nor Manning have recorded a country music album nor appeared in any Burt Reynolds movies.

[AFreeBird]

Don’t have a problem with sports rivalries, but the real game is on. And it doesn’t involve a Football.

The future of a nation hangs in the balance.

In the overall scheme of things, the Super Bowl don’t matter.

That being said: I’ll take Peyton.

[T-Bro]

Joe Montana says hi!

[scooby321]

Manning is 1-2 in Super Bowls

Beat Rex Grossman in the Super Bowl

Blown out to a 2 year Quarterback Russell

Threw a pick six to lose to the Saints late in the Game.

What is their to discuss

[Alberta's Child]

It's always an interesting debate, but I've never been a fan of using Super Bowl rings as a metric for comparing quarterbacks. Sometimes a great QB just doesn't have enough players around him to win a championship.

I'll cite Dan Marino as a perfect example. If I have a roster of good-to-great players and I just need a starting quarterback to complete my team, I'd pick Marino over every other QB I've seen in my lifetime.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Bart Starr

(shows you what an old guy I am)

[Hugin]

Joe Montana never lost a super-bowl. 4-0.

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

“I’d pick Marino over every other QB I’ve seen in my lifetime.”

Ah, money says that you never saw Johnny U. play except maybe in a few clips!

[Will88]

I like Manning and Brady and think it’s almost impossible to compare the two in terms of playoff and SB wins;

1. Brady became the starter on a SB quality team, that had played the Packers recently and made it back to the SB Brady’s first year as a starter (I think the first year). The Colts were a terrible team when Manning became the starter.

2. Brady has played for one coach his entire NFL career, arguably the best coach of this era. Manning played for three or four at Indy and two at Denver, none with a Hall of Fame pedigree.

3. The Patriots have had from good to great defenses during Brady’s years. The Colts were average to good most years, and the Broncos a pretty good defensively, and maybe a great one this year.

I don’t think there is any doubt that Brady has benefited from overall better teams, a far better coach and better defenses over his career than Manning, and also a far better organization.

[dp0622]

Montana. Case closed.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Hey, any bets on a Bradley Manning versus Caitlin Jenner ball game?

Oh, this is about Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. NEVERMIND!

[AnotherUnixGeek]

“If Manning gets to 2-2 all time in the Super Bowl, Tom Brady’s at 4-2, Manning’s got all the records now, do you have a potentially vigorous debate as to which is the best of all time?”

No, because Joe Montana is better than both of them. Easily.

[yarddog]

Bart was the mvp of the first two super bowls. Also what a great name for a pro QB, “Bart Starr”.

I like all the Mannings but Brady actually looked better in the playoff game, at least in the last few minutes which is all I saw.

Brady was being pressured like crazy. DeMarcus Ware was all over him in four straight plays near the end.

[Ouderkirk]

Without question....Joe Montana to Jerry Rice was some of the most elegant football ever played.

[Alberta's Child]

I saw a few full playoff games on DVD from the 1980s, and I was surprised to learn that he didn't play very well against the New York Giants in his playoff career. These were his numbers in five starts:

2-3 win-loss record with 6 TDs and 7 interceptions

His two wins were early in the 1980s. After the Giants became a solid playoff contender in 1985 he was 0-3 with 1 TD and 3 interceptions. He also got knocked out of the two playoff losses in the Giants' two Super Bowl years of 1986 and 1990.

[Alberta's Child]

That's right. I can only judge those I have seen.

For what it's worth, John Madden once said that when he was coaching the Raiders, the opposing quarterback he feared the most was Joe Namath.