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Can Cruz legally be president? Ivy League scholars debate
Virgina Pilot online ^ | 2/5/16 | COLLIN BINKLEY

Posted on 02/06/2016 1:47:14 AM PST by RC one

Edited on 02/06/2016 5:34:58 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

BOSTON (AP) — Two legal scholars squared off in a public debate on Friday to settle whether Republican Ted Cruz is eligible to become president. Spoiler alert: They didn't settle it.

But the debate at Harvard Law School underscored that conflicting interpretations of the U.S. Constitution can produce different answers. The question has been in the national spotlight since Republican rival Donald Trump suggested that Cruz, who was born in Canada to an American mother, isn't legally qualified to be president.


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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2016electionbias; academicbias; birtherism; birthers; blamecanada; canadian; cruz; doublestandard; naturalborncitizen; naughtyteacherslist; obamawasntvetted; repositorycruz
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To: RC one
He sure as heck is subverting the constitution by running for President though.

Then he should resign from the Senate according to your flawless logic...

He swore to defend and support the constitution and is actually subverting it because of his political aspirations to fix the country by bringing the country back to constitutional principles...

Who's on first ?

161 posted on 02/06/2016 9:40:06 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Popman
Then he should resign from the Senate

hey, you said it, not me.

162 posted on 02/06/2016 9:42:29 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one
It concerns me that some of us think that a man who is clearly subverting the constitution is in any way a constitutional conservative.

Maybe it's clearly to you, but that is certainly not clear to many other people...

How can you say with a straight face Cruz is not a constitutional conservative

You are beginning to sound like a dem operative...

Facts are irrelevant in the face of clear evidence...

163 posted on 02/06/2016 9:45:39 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: RC one

Here’s something I would like to see dropped before a national audience.
Make a reference to 0bama’s birth assertion. Back up the phoney statement by pointing to the confirmation of Hawaii Department of Health, Delialah Fuddy!

When the press shouts back-who???-tell then you are using Fuddy’s Subud name.
Then, berate the press for being bigoted against Fuddy’s chosen religion.


164 posted on 02/06/2016 9:49:24 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: RC one
You may not see it, but you are operating in a circular logic loop...

Cruz is subverting the constitution by running for POTUS as a constitutional Conservative...


165 posted on 02/06/2016 9:49:53 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: RC one

Chester Arthur had a Canadian Father. An unexpected fire destroyed all of the family records.

It’s just like the Christmas eve fire that destroyed jessie jackson jr. Records, the Christmas before Blago went to jail


166 posted on 02/06/2016 9:52:04 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: RC one

What I find interesting is that there has never, in 226 years, been an openly foreign born President. Arthur is likely the exception but he had the sense to hide his illegitimacy. This is 226 years of historical precedent that Ted Cruz is attempting to undo.
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Agree.

There was never conclusive proof of Arthur being born in Canada, as far as I know.


167 posted on 02/06/2016 9:53:01 AM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is not an 'outsider", He's worked 224 of 247 months of total career in govt.)
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To: Popman
How can you say with a straight face Cruz is not a constitutional conservative

Because he's subverting the constitution.

You are beginning to sound like a dem operative...

he is subverting the constitution. Plenty of clear evidence points to this fact.

Facts are irrelevant in the face of clear evidence...

That's what I'm saying.

168 posted on 02/06/2016 9:54:51 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: Popman

It takes two to tango.


169 posted on 02/06/2016 9:56:07 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: hoosiermama

Allows for a plan B.. Brokered convention.

Why would a Republican Party allow Cruz to take the nomination, knowing darn well he could be disqualified?

Heads I win, tails you lose.

The one they have to move out of the way, is Trump.

That is why you see entire magazines devoted to getting him out of the race.


170 posted on 02/06/2016 9:56:29 AM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is not an 'outsider", He's worked 224 of 247 months of total career in govt.)
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To: GeaugaRepublican

To see conservatives use the left’s “birther” arguments against their own because they happen to support a candidate with doubts in this regard has been unsettling, to me at least.


171 posted on 02/06/2016 9:58:06 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: GeaugaRepublican

Even if he was born in Canada, he hid that fact from history. He sneaked through the back door undetected. Cruz isn’t hiding anything. He’s just walking through the front door and leaving it wide open for the next ineligible President. That’s much different and much worse IMHO.


172 posted on 02/06/2016 10:00:16 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one

“Even if he was born in Canada, he hid that fact from history. He sneaked through the back door undetected. Cruz isn’t hiding anything. He’s just walking through the front door and leaving it wide open for the next ineligible President. That’s much different and much worse IMHO.”

Indeed.


173 posted on 02/06/2016 10:01:05 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: JediJones

The words natural born modify the noun Citizen.
Back in the day, everyone understood what natural born Citizen meant, a child born on the soil to parentS under the jurisdiction of the Government responsible for that soil.

Cruz is a canadian citizen
Cruz is a cuban citizen
Cruz is a us citizen

Back in the day, everyone knew what a “litter” was. Today, most have forgotten


174 posted on 02/06/2016 10:01:25 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: RC one

Rubio’s case is much better for NBC than Cruz.

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175 posted on 02/06/2016 10:02:33 AM PST by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is not an 'outsider", He's worked 224 of 247 months of total career in govt.)
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To: GeaugaRepublican

I smell a trap here. These two are maneuvering us into an constitutional showdown that ends in either foreign born NBCs or natural born anchor babies as the law of the land. I don’t want to accept either of those premises but it could very well happen.


176 posted on 02/06/2016 10:12:19 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one

Children born abroad to diplomats have always been natural born citizens. Why? Diplomatic immunity. The laws of the country in which they’re serving the US do not apply, not even citizenship laws regarding children born there. The whole natural born citizen thing is jurisdictional. No jurisdiction of any foreign sovereignty, only US jurisdiction, makes a natural born citizen. That’s true of a birth abroad and it’s true of a birth in the country. Or, at least that’s the conclusion I’ve reached after looking into the matter pretty thoroughly.


177 posted on 02/06/2016 10:16:57 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I couldn’t agree with you more but do you trust the SCOTUS to arrive at a similar opinion?


178 posted on 02/06/2016 10:20:12 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one

No, I’m afraid I don’t.


179 posted on 02/06/2016 10:21:55 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

and therein lies the problem.


180 posted on 02/06/2016 10:23:19 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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