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Post South Carolina Results – “The Looming Inferno”…
The Last Refuge/Conservative Treehouse ^ | February 21, 2016 | sundance

Posted on 02/21/2016 2:44:41 PM PST by Bratch

Be of good cheer and enjoy the removal of one-half of the globalists 2016 objectives; indeed a difficult Rubicon has been successfully traversed.  However, do not be naïve in thinking one significant battle means the war has been won.

The bloodiest battle still lays ahead.

♦ Jeb Bush has been forced out of the race.  It cannot be overstated how significant this victory is in the grand scheme of things.  The foundational block, upon which the entire road-map was built, has been removed.  However, the GOPe engineers will now shift attention to a scorched earth campaign to benefit their retention of power.

We would all be wise to remember in 2014 Chris McDaniels actually defeated Thad Cochran in the first GOP Mississippi primary.  It was only after their initial defeat the GOPe decided to destroy anything that stood in their way – again, the retention of power was the ultimate motivator.

We can now expect those same DC influences, including the entire camp that supported Jeb Bush, the old guard, to work diligently (albeit under darkened cover) to assist Hillary Clinton, and destroy anything that would interrupt their grip on power.

Yes, the GOPe would rather lose to Hillary and retain their place at the trough than to see entry into their cloistered club by the Vulgarian Donald Trump.

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That inevitable and predictable result was/is part of the original problem.

The full weight of the GOPe apparatus, Wall Street, the U.S. CoC, K-Street and the affiliated professional political class will now work hand-in-hand with the Democrats and left-wing media to destroy that which threatens them; namely Donald J Trump.  Attacks in all forms are only going to get worse from here on out.

Trump refusing to thank the Bush Clan upon exit was simply recognition of his awareness of what’s to come.  Trump, and the close circle around him, are well aware of what happens next….. They simply have to be.

♦ “Ceilings” – There will be much media obfuscation around Trump having ceilings, or limits to his appeal.  These necessarily promoted memes and narratives will have to be pushed to provide distraction and gaslight those voters with common sense.

In reality election results are ceilings themselves, and while they may proclaim Trump has a 35% +/- ceiling, the reality is yesterday Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz had ceilings around the 22% range.  Election results are ceilings.  Ceilings move along with the thinning out of campaign contestants.

FACT – As long as Trump’s “Ceiling” is higher than his competition he will continue to win, and there’s nothing on the visible horizon to indicate he will lose.  Talk of “ceilings” is merely obfuscation and denial of reality.

♦ John Kasich – Remember, Kasich will not even be competitive in most of the upcoming races.  Nor is Kasich on all of the upcoming state’s ballots.  So why does he stay in?  He is a loyal soldier for the Old Guard.  He still has a role to play, an agenda to deliver and promises to keep.

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♦ Ted Cruz – Ted’s loss yesterday (as described here), showcases what we have outlined for a long time.  Team Cruz does not carry a pathway to a successful nomination. Period.  If Cruz cannot win a single county in 75% evangelical voter friendly South Carolina, where exactly can he win?

SEC primary states or not, Ted Cruz’s last and only firewall before an embarrassing, albeit lucrative, exit is Texas.  If Cruz doesn’t win Texas, he’s done.  But he needs to keep talking like it’s possible in order for the supporters to hit the donation buttons on the increasingly urgent and desperate emails.

Team Cruz talking points will center around beating Trump by a.) confronting Trump directly, or, b)  taking down Marco Rubio.  Except Cruz faces a reality problem.  Taking support from Rubio only benefits Trump, not Cruz.

♦ Marco Rubio – We have continually referenced readers to weigh only polling that is not agenda driven polling.  Meaning polling results which are not driven by insiders in the professional political game.  You can see from last night’s results the NBC/WSJ poll was insufferably wrong (derived from a PR firm).  So too was the Fox Poll, and almost all of the 48 hour polls prior to the actual voting in South Carolina.

However, in the non-agenda polling, done by actual political scientists without a financial stake in the outcome, you see a key point repeating over the past several months.  If you take down Marco Rubio, Donald Trump’s numbers increase but not Ted Cruz.

The Southern Political Poll is a great representative example – SEE HERE.

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Horse race #1 = first choice, Horse race #2 = second choice.

Only Donald Trump holds more than 50% when combining first and second preference inobjective polling stats (again, agenda polls are useless for this analysis).

It is conversely true that Rubio would benefit from a Trump downfall or exit.  However, it is also true that any benefit therein to Cruz would be minimal.  Cruz’s base voters are the purest of ideological voters, as a consequence moderates do not traverse easily into that camp – even if their favorite issues are represented within it.

As we previously shared, in a three man race with Trump, Rubio and Cruz a generally admitted outcome would be:

We have not had an “America-First” (center-right) candidate for a long time.  That is the new paradigm everyone is struggling to define.  And when you combine that broad-based coalition it takes all the positional oxygen from the GOPe and far right.

America-first immigration policies; strong border security; Pro U.S. worker trade-policies; Main Street (not Wall Street) American worker interests; Local education (not common core); Strong national defense, but common sense non-intervention.  All policies dominated by Donald J Trump.

One of the historic truisms in the past several election cycles is the “Cruz Coalition”, as currently assembled, is the first to stay home when their candidate doesn’t win.  The socially-minded voter will never vote for a populist fiscal conservative/socially moderate candidate.  Cruz voters, and their advocates, are emotionally driven by social issues. Hence they yell a lot (See Mark Levin) and only respond well to others who are inside their echo-chamber.

Consequently neither Rubio nor Trump will try to gain/court Cruz voters.  Why should they; the narrow-minded group will never vote for them, if they vote at all.

This ‘non-voting’ truism is why the GOPe ignore the Cruz-like factions completely; because rarely will the GOPe be influenced by them.  When Cruz-Clan get angry and don’t get their way they don’t vote.

The modern way to deal with that faction is to make them angry, and they leave.  (Example: Questioning eligibility sets them off easily and they lose control. They might even invite another sketchy character, Glenn Beck, to help showcase their entrenched ideological moonbattery.) See how easy that is?  More exposure to the crazy = less votes in crazy camp.

Both Trump and Rubio will most likely ignore Cruz, as neither stands to benefit much.

However, Rubio will be forced to confront Trump if he is to have any chance of winning anywhere…… AND that’s where Rubio benefits from Team Bush.  Rubio will not have to attack Trump, because the GOPe Old Guard is about to do that dirty work for him.

Lastly, when encountering either Cruz sycophants, or big government GOPe Rubiobots the best thing to do is ask a simple question:

….”OK, let’s presume the race is a simple three-way contest, what state is YOUR GUY going to win”?….

Absent of scorched-earth intervention, Donald Trump is well positioned to run the table.  However, he’s also entering the eye-wall of the hurricane; for the next ten days he needs to withstand the fury.

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To: Hostage
Donald Trump simply has more mastery of branding and messaging than any other candidate. And he has experience managing a large organization of executives that adhere to his way of communicating and executing.

BUMP

61 posted on 02/21/2016 3:47:54 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Hostage

Ted Cruz hired those “sleaze ball” tactics. Jeff Row was not hired for his organizational powers alone. He ran the governor campaign, where the dirty tricks triggered the opponent’s suicide.

Even after IOWA, Cruz unapologetically issued the creepy sounding robo calls against TRUMP, still skirting the edges of propriety by his “joy” filled campaign.

He does lie. By omission. Staging 20 year old comments in ads against another candidate, as if they were still held today is a Cruz signature tactic.

You are right. His campaign handlers killed the dog and spoiled the Cruz brand of righteousness. But, he hired them to do it.


62 posted on 02/21/2016 3:48:14 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Again, it isn’t over yet.


Yep. And it won’t be “over” when Cruz loses 9 or 10 of 11 states next week.


63 posted on 02/21/2016 3:51:32 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: RitaOK

Is there any proof that it was the Cruz campaign behind the SC Trump robocalls? Other than what Trump said at the last debate, that is.


64 posted on 02/21/2016 3:51:49 PM PST by MLL
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To: Bratch

It works better if you only search on one word (of more than three letters) in the title.


65 posted on 02/21/2016 3:54:36 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Hostage
I remember Mississippi every day I read a political headline.

Time doesn't stop after an election, and citizens are proving to have longer memories than the establishment. When Lois Lerner criminally interfered with tea party organization's ability to function, she was let off the hook by a republican controlled congress. When McDaniels was campained against by his own party to keep a feeble but controllable senator in place, voters remembered how they and their candidate were treated.

Time marches on and now we have 60% of republicans voting against their party's favorites. It was Mississippi that caused Trump.

66 posted on 02/21/2016 3:57:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: TheShaz

For some of us, cold anger has been here for years.


67 posted on 02/21/2016 3:58:44 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: RitaOK; All
"It is no lock that Cruz can win TEXAS"

You heard it here first.

Cruz will NOT win Texas.

There enough, if not a lot, of Texas Republican primary voters who are angry at Ted Cruz for not revealing his Canadian citizenship in 2012. Yeah, everyone knew he was born in Canada, but nobody knew he was STILL Canadian.

And he will then lose the Texas Senate GOP primary for the same reason.

Some folks are downright mad about it.

68 posted on 02/21/2016 3:58:58 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Hostage
"Donald Trump simply has more mastery of branding and messaging than any other candidate. And he has experience managing a large organization of executives that adhere to his way of communicating and executing."

So true. He's good at leading a very large team.

69 posted on 02/21/2016 4:02:26 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: w1andsodidwe
Well I must say that this is a sad but true analysis of the Cruz voters. Basically if they can't win why then let Hillary win:

If many Cruz supporters are to be believed this may be accurate. I do not actually believe this is true. In the last presidential election most of the conservatives now supporting Cruz, who were very upset about Romney being the nominee eventually fessed up... that actually held their noses and voted for him.

It was the evangelical voters who sat out that election. Many couldn't stand the thought of voting for a Mormon. This has been confirmed by numerous studies of why George in 2004 received over 4,000,000 more than Mitt Romney did in 2012.

This does not appear to be a factor with Trump. He actually received more evangelical votes than Cruz did in South Carolina. This is despite Cruz getting the support of more evangelical leaders and working very hard for their votes.

Most, but not all of the people here who prefer Cruz will still support Trump in the general. Cruz supporters know that if the Democrats win... the repercussions this time will be so incredibly awful that Cruz supporters will not sit out the election even if he is not the nominee.

70 posted on 02/21/2016 4:07:06 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: RitaOK

It’s 2008 all over again, except this time, instead of the mob ascribing all their hopes for change on a man running with a ‘D’ after his name, they do so with a Trump running with an ‘R’ after his.

I guess the Executive will forever now be seen as either a Monarchy or a Dictatorship in the minds of those seig-heiling whatever vaunted political candidate is their messiah.

Such people are not capable of freedom or liberty. This people do not want a Republic or the foundational principles that founded it. They want a king.

And they shall have it.

And all the consequences that come with it.


71 posted on 02/21/2016 4:07:37 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tinyowl
1. We are not hiring a pastor.

A people who will not be governed by God and in whose governance is reflected in their choices in this life, will be ruled by the tyranny of men.

Welcome to the tyranny of men that you and those like you wholeheartedly embrace.

72 posted on 02/21/2016 4:11:47 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DuncanWaring

I do actually have bayonets for 4 of my rifles.Not my style,but I’ve got ‘em.


73 posted on 02/21/2016 4:13:34 PM PST by Farmer Dean
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To: INVAR

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp

I posted the following excerpt before from George Washington’s farewell speech. I’ll try to make this one even more brief.

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Excerpt:

...Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally...

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism.

The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty....

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens....


74 posted on 02/21/2016 4:16:24 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: Bratch

T T T T ! ! ! ©


75 posted on 02/21/2016 4:18:33 PM PST by onyx (YOU'RE POSTING HERE, HOPE YOU'RE A DONOR! FReepLoaders are RUDE)
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To: INVAR
I agree with the platitude however I repeat: We are not hiring a pastor.

And quit with the 'those like you' speech. Every Trump supporter has his own reasons.

As for me, when the country is no longer America after 8 years of Cruz being right about everything but that not mattering, then you will see that it's not about the positions a person talks about, it's what they can accomplish.

This country will not follow Cruz. How many more primaries do you need to see? It KILLS me that the country is so stupid as to not want a man like Cruz - but they don't. So swallow that. Then decide whether you want to ruin America but be 'righteous', or save her and be wrong, like me.

You are blind to your own pride. That is usually the sin before doom. Inspect that. You want to be right rather than do what will work.

First we had 'Establishment Republican' ... then this election we began to see another bad thing - 'Establishment Conservative" ... no you're going 'Establishment Church Doctrine".

I urge you to wake up and save the country, so that a man like Cruz can take the helm. But he can't save this ship. That's been demonstrated.

76 posted on 02/21/2016 4:19:33 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: 21twelve
Thanks for posting that - AMEN. However, among most these days, quoting the Founders is being met with as much disdain as quoting Reagan.

This people do not want to hear it. They want their king from their faction and they do not care if it leads to a more formal and permanent despotism.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism.

The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty….

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens….

77 posted on 02/21/2016 4:24:18 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Name any state you think Rubio is guaranteed to win.

Name any state you think Ted will win.

Then Mae the number two and three states they will win.

Convince me it isn’t over.


78 posted on 02/21/2016 4:25:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Farmer Dean

You’ve got me beat - I’ve only got three.


79 posted on 02/21/2016 4:26:01 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: lodi90

Hey we get the government we deserve.


80 posted on 02/21/2016 4:26:50 PM PST by Theophilus (Make America Hope for Great Change Again)
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