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Posted on 02/21/2016 3:21:29 PM PST by NavVet

I'm trying to understand FR's embrace of the Donald, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this one. I too had a favorable first reaction when I heard him talking about building the wall in absolute terms, and his rejection of the concept of amnesty for illegal aliens. I also admired that he was the first politician in a long time that would fight back against the media and left-wing attacks, instead of trying to appease the left. However, that admiration quickly wore off when I researched Trump and found clip after clip of the man, in his own words embracing every liberal talking point in the book. Planned Parenthood, gay marriage, abortion, government health care, protectionist trade policies, increasing taxes on businesses and the most productive. Of course, the man has taken the opposite positions on most of these two. Sometimes he will take both sides of an issue in the same discussion. Also, his "I'm awesome at___________" is wearing a bit thin. I want to hear what you plan to do, not how great you are. Then there is his child like temper, calling anyone he doesn't agree with , Liar, Pu@@Y or worse. Just seems kind of juvenile. The personality quirks I could live with, but a man who praises Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton is another thing. And perhaps most important of all, he has said that his uber liberal sister would be a great Supreme Court Justice. Other than being a recent convert on Immigration this man has no conservative bona fides and yet have of FR acts like you would expect this board to react if Ronald Regan had returned. I just don't get it. If Bernie Sanders starts lobbying for the fair tax and runs for President on the GOP ticket would the Trumpets start feeling the Bern.


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To: JimSEA

Immigration, right now, is the most fundamental issue of our time. Get this one wrong and nothing else matters.


181 posted on 02/21/2016 4:28:08 PM PST by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: NavVet
I'm trying to understand FR's embrace of the Donald, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this one.

Donald Trump is the disaffected white man's Obama. Whatever you're angry about, he'll fix for you. Hate lying politicians? He'll smash'em up. Job outsourced? Trump'll bring it back. Illegal mexicans? He'll build the wall. And so forth. It's magic thinking.

Remember in 2008 how some blacks really thought Obama would get their mortgage paid? Well this time some whites really think Trump is going to go beat up China and get their jobs back.

182 posted on 02/21/2016 4:29:25 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: ought-six
Say, what?

Ouch! I can see where you may not have understood my point. I actually agree with you. I'll explain later. Have something I need to attend to now. :-)

183 posted on 02/21/2016 4:29:38 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: tinyowl

When he donated to McConnell and then tweeted that the people of Kentucky would be foolish not to re-elect him becUse he can bring more money to the state, that tells me a lot about him. I would prefer the overloaded federal government not extort money from citizens and then hand it out in exchange for doing as it says. I don’t recall that being in the constitution.


184 posted on 02/21/2016 4:30:58 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Wipe the oatmeal from your chin Grampa.


185 posted on 02/21/2016 4:31:24 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Smedley

You know what, he makes it look fun. He makes it look fun to beat down these imbeciles. Oh, what I wouldn’t give for a personality like that. Winning baby. You’re gonna LIKE IT.


186 posted on 02/21/2016 4:31:51 PM PST by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: tinyowl

Are you for real or did you forget the sarcasm tag?


187 posted on 02/21/2016 4:32:32 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>

“But analyzing what he says, do you really think that deporting 11 million illegals will magically create high paying jobs for Americans? “

USA has had 50 years of open borders and 45+ years of “free trade”.

It’s not working and it is time to try something else.

I don’t know for sure that Trump will act on those issues, but I do know for sure that the others won’t.


188 posted on 02/21/2016 4:32:50 PM PST by Reverend Wright (Illegal immigrants: Arrest, Intern, Deport)
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To: XenaLee

“A flat 16%” tax on business.

So when I bring in a piece of metal, machine it into something else, and then resell it, I pay 16% on that. The supplier paid 16% on his sale to me. How many times are you going to tax that piece of metal?? Does it matter that it cost me a certain amount to do that, or where the costs associated with that value increase are?

No. Flat 16%. No IRS, so no deductions or depreciation for equipment. Why will I buy new equipment if I can’t depreciate it? I won’t. I’ll use it until it no longer works. The folks who make equipment will see a huge reduction in sales.

I read his tax plan. It is written for consumers and not business. Because to politicians, it’s only about consumers because consumers are voters. Typical politician who has never owned a business. They don’t understand that businesses are the employers.

That tax plan has LIV written all over it.


189 posted on 02/21/2016 4:33:50 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: Stegall Tx
"His (Reagan) consistent commitment to conservative principles won us over."

Correct summation.

Trump has shown that he can Trump can be swayed by a "valid argument" even though that argument may not be true. For me, it appears Trump places more importance on the "deal" (solution) than the value (principal) of an issue.

But then, I agree with Sarah and many others . . . its about winning the White House.

190 posted on 02/21/2016 4:34:17 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: Mac n Jac
You’re about to take incoming fire for daring to diss Donny Kardahian Trump.
And if he "dissed" your candidate you'd be leading the pack, Mac.
191 posted on 02/21/2016 4:35:30 PM PST by softwarecreator
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To: PJBankard

Cruz had a 67% second choice rating in the poll that Trump had only 27%.

Cruz had a 34% disapproval rating in the poll that Trump had a 67%.

I base my assessment on those numbers.


192 posted on 02/21/2016 4:36:40 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

Wow, I remember that poll. From August?


193 posted on 02/21/2016 4:38:28 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: publius911
Telling a fellow Freeper to STFU cause you don't like what he post, classy.

Don't click the link Sir.

194 posted on 02/21/2016 4:38:32 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Reverend Wright

Understood. I fear Trump is in fact “lying now”.


195 posted on 02/21/2016 4:38:40 PM PST by Techjock
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To: KansasGirl

I thought the auto bailout was appalling, hundreds of years of business and bankruptcy law out the door. Payoff for union donors to democrats, which was about all the stimulus was.


196 posted on 02/21/2016 4:41:55 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Again: If you READ what I responded to, you'll see, I responded IN KIND. If you read most of what I've posted in the past week, you'll see I've called for people to actually discuss the merits of the cases.

However, the post I responded to ... if you don't think someone who can only post 'Trumpsters are losers' actually is HIMSELF a loser, then I can't help you. Sometimes I choose to ignore them. About one in every ten, I choose to fire at.

197 posted on 02/21/2016 4:42:59 PM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: datura

I guess I haven’t heard him talk about currency manipulation as much as tariffs, but that is good that he does. Romney used to talk about it but I guess he didn’t use the right tone for people.


198 posted on 02/21/2016 4:47:09 PM PST by Rusty0604 (oh the stories I could tell. but I really don't think scalia's death is suspiciou.)
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To: NavVet

199 posted on 02/21/2016 4:48:57 PM PST by JediJones (Trump 3/30/2011:"You have some great, productive [illegals] that came.You have to give them a path.")
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To: TTFlyer

No, that she is an immigrant and has no right to come here and them what do with their flag and how much the Confederate flag means to them.... and how they showed her and will vote her out office first chance that they get.

Haley is an Insider. She was never a TeaParty candidate.


200 posted on 02/21/2016 4:49:58 PM PST by Eva
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