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Farewell to “Downton Abbey”
Ricochet ^ | March 5, 2016 | Jack Dunphy

Posted on 03/07/2016 9:15:02 AM PST by C19fan

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To: Timocrat

I subscribed to the cable tier for BBC America. I was sorely disappointed in the all StarTrek:TNG all the time. It did occasionally have a short-run drama series. I dropped the tier a couple of months ago.

PBS has more British programs than BBCA did. I also watch many British drama series via Netflix and Amazon Prime. There is a streaming services that offers many of the British TV series for about $6 per month. It does not have some of the BBC programs, such as Doctor Who.

I heard about DA on FR about the time Season 2 was to start on PBS. I binged on Netflix to catch up. I liked it from the first episode.


21 posted on 03/07/2016 9:55:44 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: StoneWall Brigade

I had my DVR set for W & P.

The first episode was on several different cable channels. The follow-up episodes were only on Lifetime. I missed Episode 2 for that reason, but was able to DVR a rerun.

I have all the episodes on my hard drive, but haven’t watched any of them yet.


22 posted on 03/07/2016 9:58:33 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: C19fan

DA is what television should be - historical, sociological, emotional— covers all the bases. It will be sorely missed. Most European movies are much better than American fare with respect to multi-plots, interesting characters and the like. Of course, The Sopranos and Breaking Bad are obvious exceptions.


23 posted on 03/07/2016 9:58:34 AM PST by yetidog
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To: Slyfox
DA is a historical transition piece. It traces the social revolution in Great Britain after the horrors of the First World War.

The Granthams -- mostly -- represent the ancien regime, with the Dowager the most steadfast defender of tradition. The newer generation -- Mary, Edith, and Tom -- are children of the changing times, and some adapt to them better than others. Mary is caught between her lofty station and her own desires; Edith is just trying to muddle through and find some glimmer of happiness. Lord Grantham and Cora are resigned to a "progress" that means the end of their way of life, even though the Earl fights it a bit more than his wife.

Many of the family's traits are mirrored in the "downstairs" population as well. Carson is the staid relic of a time that no longer exists. Daisy is the outspoken plebian who is using the new system to elevate herself through education and ambition. Barrow is a misfit who (we're supposed to believe) has a hard outer shell guarding a caring inner core. And then there's Bates and Anna, who basically provide gooey pillow talk and an improbable Hallmark romance.

In my opinion, the finest character in the series is Mrs. Patmore, the crusty old cook. Lesley Nicol plays the role to an art, a perfect melange of spice, substance, and pathos. She will end up with Daisy's father-in-law before the series is over, and well she should.

Julian Fellowes has restrained himself from injecting too much latter-day political correctness into the series, maintaining its cultural and chronological integrity while still telling a kaleidoscopic story.

It's well worth the watch if you enjoy seeing the sun set on the British Empire as a newer, less hidebound one emerges.

24 posted on 03/07/2016 10:01:19 AM PST by IronJack
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To: C19fan

Anyone remember “UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS” Series? Very similar to DA.


25 posted on 03/07/2016 10:09:32 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: acoulterfan

British TV program Upstairs Downstairs from 1971 - 1975 for the era 1901 to 1930.


26 posted on 03/07/2016 10:12:06 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: C19fan

I was hooked the first five minutes of watching some years ago.

Granny rocked.! She made the show.


27 posted on 03/07/2016 10:12:44 AM PST by Original Lurker
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To: DaxtonBrown
I am hard at work writing the sequel: Downtown Detroit.

With Coleman and Kwame as corrupt plantation owners...

28 posted on 03/07/2016 10:16:15 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Political Correctness is a kool-aid drinking suicide cult)
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To: Slyfox
Downton Abbey is an historian's dream.

I must say I was enthralled by 99% of the show, but disappointed in the last episode at the sheer amount of psychobabble dialog -- words that were never spoken in the early 20th century, not even to mention the lib/prog attitudes depicted. These things were not likely to have happened:

A lady's maid having a baby in the lady's bed. No -- she really would have been hustled out as soon as labor started;

Nor would her husband Bates have been sitting with his butt on Her Ladyship's bed and pillow, even to see his baby -- he would have been in a chair pulled close, in the remote possibility that the above had actually happened;

Edith's tyrranical mother-in-law-to-be, making an overnight assessment of "courageousness" about her prospective DIL for having and raising her out-of-wedlock child;

Lady Mary, consummate snob, being thrilled over her husband opening a used-car showroom for the commoners (she might have reluctantly accepted a luxury car venue far from Downton, with him as absentee owner);

The same Lady Mary completely extinguishing cattiness and envy about the wedding of her cradle enemy, Edith, who will now rank above her, with no indications that her spite war may never be over;

The childless aunt, smiling blissfully through the priest's celebration of parenthood during the wedding;

Mrs. Crowley's Lord just relinquishing his property and moving into Mrs. Crowley's house--I don't care if he thought he was dying--without him and his son calling their solicitors and having a drawn-out battle over "principles";

Tom Branson, an Irish Catholic, ever being accepted so completely into the bosom of an Anglican famlly without obligatory ritual displays of acknowledging his "place"...

Likewise with Barrow; homosexuality among male servants to the English aristocracy was a well-established phenomenon; but there was always a hypocritical pantomime of denial attached to it.

There really should have been a seventh season to work out these let's-tie-it-all-up-with-a-bow moments with more historic integrity.

Nevertheless, there were great moments. I loved when the Dowager Countess (the indomitable Maggie Smith) tittered while reading her butler's "agony aunt" columns. The clothes and cars were magnificent. The sweeping views of Edith's future home were amazing. And the wedding at the end was a gigantic nod to the strength of a free people carrying civilization forward through the institution of blood family, something that is under violent attack in the real world by socialists everywhere, pretty much since the beginning of this wonderful series.

29 posted on 03/07/2016 10:19:08 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: acoulterfan
Anyone remember “UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS” Series? Very similar to DA.

I watched nearly every episode. It was very much the precursor to Downton.

30 posted on 03/07/2016 10:20:09 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: C19fan

I have purposefully avoided it while my wife is addicted to it. When a year has passed, I’ll begin the series.


31 posted on 03/07/2016 10:21:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: C19fan

I ran across DA in Netflix in April 2011, before it was a thing.

I thought it looked interesting so I watched it.

I never, ever get “hooked” on series. Ever. But, halfway through the first episode, I was hooked on DA.

I now have all 6 season on Bluray. Watching the final episode was like saying goodbye to an old friend.

Outstanding and deeply entertaining in every way.


32 posted on 03/07/2016 10:23:14 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: mmichaels1970
Gonna have to find a new wine, cheese, and pretzel night.

You might enjoy this one that will be taking over Downton's time slot. I'll be watching it.

Victoria

33 posted on 03/07/2016 10:26:57 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackoLivesMatter)
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To: fwdude

It could have been the best show ever, but that first episode turned me off of it.


34 posted on 03/07/2016 10:28:31 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: C19fan

I am a big fan...I have 4 hours left to watch as I record them...I hate for it to end. There are so many wonderful character in DT. It has been an interesting journey through changing times.


35 posted on 03/07/2016 10:31:53 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Wonderful! I’ll be watching.

I love Grantchester, too.


36 posted on 03/07/2016 10:43:54 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: Organic Panic

I’m not much on tv; but the ambience, costumes & beautiful
scenery on Downton Abbey is great. - Of course, the actors
playing the parts probably live just like most of us live,
in ordinary houses without chauffeurs. The people who really
live in that house actually dress pretty much similar to
most of us & even they can only live in one room at a time.


37 posted on 03/07/2016 10:51:41 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: C19fan

I’ll admit to getting hooked on “Downton Abbey” after binge watching season 1 with the wife.


38 posted on 03/07/2016 10:58:37 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Slyfox

I loved the vintage cars and the cinematography.


39 posted on 03/07/2016 11:29:35 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: C19fan

Other than the solid production and drama, I think a lot of the popularity of the show in the UK is down to the fact that it shows an England inhabited by actual Englanders - not the 50/50 mishmash (in some parts) of today.

In the whole series there was not one instance of muzzie morons shouting for the abolition of freedom or the beheading of Christians. Imagine that!


40 posted on 03/07/2016 11:40:29 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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