Posted on 03/09/2016 6:03:38 PM PST by conservativejoy
When I stumbled on this thread I knew I would find the typical ‘who’d of guessed’ comments, it was my initial thought as well. It’s not like Levin has been stealth in his support and promotion of Cruz, nor has he hid his disdain for Trump. To that end, he became intolerable for me to listen to, all the screaming is unnecessary noise that I avoid when possible.
I must say though, your post is very well laid out and I agree with what you’ve pointed out in regards to how we got here. Great job
None of that is true, and you know it.
| You may be right about Levin. But with Beck, I think he's starting a new anti-Trump radio program that will be quite well funded by the Silicon Valley and Golden Sacks. Beck is a salesman who sells whatever brand of snake oil is popular at the moment. He sells political entertainment in the form of radio talk. I think his cable TV show will probably go out of business as you say. |
Rush's contract expires this year. However, Rush has stated on multiple occasions over his entire broadcast career that he won't retire until every single American agrees with him.
No, he was every Democrat's favorite Republican ...
McCain got lots of love from the media like Stewart and MSNBC yes, but it was along the lines of a war hero or POW, and they naturally were cheering the Bush43 hating maverick. This was 8 years ago, and there was no Barry yet pushing invaders into Arizona and fighting with the Governor and challenging them on state matters with McCain turncoating on his own peeps. What you saw in 2008 was the residual media lovefest making up to McCain for his defeat by Bush43 8 years prior to that, and needless to say they were predictably on board until the magic negro came along.
What did not happen was McCain running as a non-partisan or bi-partisan outsider without strong ties to either half of the uniparty like Trump. This is what your weak analogy attempted to state. They are more like opposites, McCain on puppet strings controlled by the GOPe, and Trump on the other end of the strings dangling puppets from both parties. Whatever, believe what you want. I'm just gonna keep on insisting that this is something completely different and you'd have to go back to Perot or maybe Teddy Roosevelt to come close to a proper parallel.
As for the silent majority of conservatives, it seems more like a 40+ percent plurality from what I hear.
Yeah, no. But I sure do know where that myth comes from, Rush! His data is frozen circa 1984.
Now just think about it. If 40% of the electorate was actually Conservatives then you are literally stating that there are no such things as RINOs or moderate and liberal (R)epublicrats! That's because 40% is close to *all* the (R)epublicrats that even exist and you just assigned them all the (C) label. And there ain't enough blue (D)ogs left to make up the difference in the other party. Rush is a champion master of common core math even though it is patently impossible for that number to ever be true.
Furthermore, you also must make believe that for the past 51 years since LBJ's 1965 Great Society and restarted Immigration that there has been no consequence. Unfortunately there has been a great consequence. Each day that has elapsed since then sees us die off and get replaced by naturalized invaders and natural born welfare rats. The demographic shift is clearly visible in the red/blue state paradigm, the electoral college, the popular vote, and everywhere else we have a metric.
We were founded with an apocryphal ( but likely true ) philosophical division of 1/3 patriot, 1/3 traitor, 1/3 too retarded to decide. That 33-33-33 percent paradigm is roughly correlated to (R)-(D)-(I) or (C)-(L)-(I) with the numbers bouncing around a bit. In 1984 it was pretty much agreed that (R)-(D)-(I) was around 40-30-30 after Reagan's big landslide, but it has been a linear trend down for us every day since. Honestly, we (C)onservatives who are a mere subset of (R)epublicrats ( remember, blue dogs are nearly extinct ) *might* be one quarter, and it means we are outnumbered by (D)ummies and (L)iberals and (I)ndependents and (S)ocialists and know nothings by 4 to 1. Worse yet, my gut tells me we are likely closer to 1/5th or maybe 20%, outnumbered 5 to 1.
This is the damage Rush has caused us by his pontificating with lack of any current information. It suppresses turnout, it leads us to believe we can nominate anybody, and then act all surprised when the returns roll in on election night and it is 338-200. It is the most wicked case of wishful thinking and needs to be stopped now, or we are going to lose this one, and there will not be another real election once the enemy has their 270 electoral votes locked up even before an election occurs.
Rush was a William F. Buckley sycophant, and it shows. But he has actually managed to even screw that up. What Buckley actually said about the primary process was: "Elect the most conservative candidate who can win", and unfortunately Rush and Levin and the rest stopped reading after the first half and skipped the bold part. Buckley also said: "I am obliged to confess I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University". Now this is a good approximation of what is happening with an outsider like Trump. Buckley may get his wish yet, though ironically it would seem that it conflicts with the wishes of Rush and Levin.
I am not ignoring you. My freepmail doesn’t work.
I would have thought that an endorsement from Mark Levin would have been a sidebar item. I’m sure many people have missed it.
Washington and the Colonials didn't win by coming up with a master plan that would defeat the British once and for all, and then putting all their hopes in that plan. They did it one battle at a time, one tactic at a time, until one day, the British walked into a trap. They won it by continuing to fight in the day to day, hard slogs, and never being annihilated, even when they lost.
Your comparison of Levin's Convention plan to Valley Forge is absurd, delusional even. It is an idea for a quick and easy way to reverse 100 years of progressivism, take away power from every sitting judge, send home Congressmen and make void the actions of decades of prior government. It requires the consent of 38 states. Going in, you know that you can't get 38 states to sign on to a proceeding that reverses progressivism. It's noble, perhaps, but quixotic at best.
Your argument is essentially, "follow my plan even though it's doomed to failure" because the revolution would have never been won with people thinking like that. However, the Revolution, while at times looking like it was in trouble, was never doomed to failure. Your hero's plan is. Your plan is like a full frontal assault by Washington on the British at Philadelphia on the hopes that half the redcoats would refuse to fight back.
Your Plan A is to abdicate your own responsibilities.
Exactly. FR is no longer supporting Constitutuionalist conservatives. It has become a Trump cult for the most part and will work to destroy anyone who dos not support him. That includes Thomas Sowell, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, and anyone else.
Again with this nonsense? First of all, you should not insult FreeRepublic the website, because *it* is doing nothing of the sort. Members are voicing their opinions. And those opinions are solely on this one office in this one on-year campaign. If they were pushing non-Conservatives for Supreme Court and House and Senate then you could say what you said and make sense. As it stands, that remark was out of line.
Secondly, the problem here is that you cannot discriminate the right tool for the job at hand. And to return the insult, YOU are actually more cult-like, as is Levin and Rush because they want to push the most "conservative" candidate whether or not the electorate wants them and whether or not they can win ( scare quotes intentional because you don't get to define that word anyway ). This lack of discrimination is a sign of cultish thinking.
The discrimination is simply recognizing when to press your philosophical preference and when it is suicidal. For example, when you call 911 because someone keeled over in your living room, do you card the paramedics at the door to make sure they are doctrinaire (C)onservatives? Or do you accept the help you need fast. Most of us see this Trump campaign as a paramedic to save the dying patient. You folks seem intent on nominating your philosophical checklist candidate whether or not the people, especially the (D) voters in the 12 swings states will vote for him.
Losing this election is not an option. Not with the Supreme Court, not with Illegal Aliens and Naturalizations, and not with the (D)ummycrats right on the precipice of turning another state "blue". If we lose, it is not just President and VP, it is the entire executive branch in one shot, justices, judges, cabinets, civil servants, pentagon, everything. That is one huge gamble to bet that your perfect (C) guy will be accepted with open arms this time by (D)ummycrats in the rust and coal belt. Is that who they are clamoring for?
Rush's hero William F. Buckley said "Elect the most conservative candidate who can win", notice the bold part that Rush and Levin skipped over. I asked someone else, exactly which (D)ummycrats are going to vote for Cruz in the general election? They sure are not doing it in the primaries, and Cruz himself said: 'Trump wins the open primaries'. He is quite literally telling everyone he has no chance when the door is open to (D) and (L) voters! The general election isn't some backwood caucus. It invites in everybody.
As far as the great Thomas Sowell and the formerly sane Mark Levin, well are you saying our guys are above criticism? They are like prophets or something? Or are they so perfect that we mere mortals cannot understand their perfect awesomeness? We support these conservative thinkers, buying their books, listening to their shows, we can sure as hell criticize them when they go flying of the handle into emotional lunacy.
Thanks!
Logic is in your screen handle, but I don’t think you know what it means.
Good. You just go right on thinking that.
If I had my name or company associated in any way with Glen Beck, I would be very nervous. VERY. Simply because, IMO, he is not mentally stable. Did we hear correctly? Beck ,as reported, is under FBI investigation for physical threats on a presidential candidate.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/05/feds-investigate-glenn-beck-for-trump-threat/
So, I don’t see any rational investment in this Kook.
| You may well be right, but somehow I think his radio program has legs because people still enjoy listening to kooks for entertainment value. |
Ok . I was wrong. Levin was so pathetic tonight. He was begging for relief!! He is getting annihilate by conservatives who know Cruz is a busk bot RINO now. Let’s Cut Mark some slack
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