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Many European doctors still think homosexuality is a disease
EurActiv ^ | Mar 21, 2016 | From euroefe.es | Translated by Samuel White

Posted on 03/21/2016 9:40:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A “large number” of doctors in certain EU member states still view homosexuality as a disease, a report has revealed. Euroefe reports.

“The research also shows that there are still quite a number of healthcare professionals in several EU member states who believe LGBT people suffer from pathological diseases,” said Michael O’Flaherty, the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA).

A recent FRA report found that Bulgaria, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Poland and Slovakia are the EU countries where this misconception is most widely held.

This negative view of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people held by groups of professionals like doctors and politicians is a barrier to efforts to end discrimination and stop hate crimes, according to the report. …

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KEYWORDS: disease; disorders; doctors; europeanunion; eussr; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; mentalillness
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To: Olog-hai

people forget or ignore that the mind and body respond to spiritual influence.
all choices good/healthy or bad/unhealthy have a spiritual root.

God lets us choose between life or death, but suggests we choose life - some still choose death (spiritually which progresses to physically too)


21 posted on 03/21/2016 10:21:04 PM PDT by b4me
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To: Olog-hai

Disease would seem like a good description of something that, if everybody had it, would wipe out society.


22 posted on 03/21/2016 10:29:43 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Samwell Tarly
Even if there is a homosexual inclination, the choice whether or not to give in to it is still there.

Just like alcoholism, without the physical component.

Just like gambling addiction, without the financial component.

Just like hoarding.

Just like an infinite number of compulsions.


They should all be treated, not admired.


23 posted on 03/21/2016 10:34:22 PM PDT by 867V309 (It's over. It's over now.)
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To: 867V309

Exactly. Just like pedophilia. A mental disorder and should be cured not excused,accepted as normal nor celebrated.


24 posted on 03/21/2016 10:50:40 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam- it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that...”


25 posted on 03/21/2016 11:07:25 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Olog-hai; absalom01; dp0622; Cowboy Bob; libh8er; LongWayHome; Samwell Tarly
When I went through an MBA program in finance, I decided to avoid what I considered the touchy, feely courses in sales and marketing and instead took some in quantitative methods. There I encountered a psychology professor who was frustrated about the direction his concentration in abnormal psychology was moving. He was into the rigorous application of statistics for any doctoral committees on which he served, so he strongly opposed a recent decision of his association.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association (APA) decided to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Removal followed a two year campaign Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout these disruptive attacks, no academic papers arose at conferences refuting any research previously done. Eventually onslaughts forced sufficient abstentions, under-votes, and apprehensive responses for a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership to approve removal.

Next activists targeted leading individual researchers such as Dr. David Reuben to ensure perpetual sanctity for the APA action. No research papers would again arise to confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating that 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle. Persistent activism over 37 years enabled ubiquitous infiltration of academia ensuring pre-ordained theses, approved flexibility in research designs, suitable human data points, and enchanting statistical enhancements. New standards for peer review of articles ensured appropriate design definitions, outcomes, and analytical models.

Psychology and Psychiatry have always had a tenuous hold on claims they were sciences with the standing of Chemistry and Physics. On the scale of intellectual rigor, their research more often resembles alchemy and/or oral history, and seldom, if ever, approaches the determinism found in a Chemistry laboratory.

In line with my developing understanding of Quantitative Methods this psychology professor maintained statistics should enable psychology/ psychiatry to a least determine there is a marginal or significant propensity for a particular disorder and its treatment. Careful studies could have identified and graded methods of treatment. Given persistence in searching for correct methods of analysis, even accumulated episodic events could be sifted for transformation into valid information. Research would have proceeded more slowly and conclusions would have been less intuitive, but more stable. The disciplines would more often have adhered to the medical principle of "first of all, do no harm". Responsible research should also acknowledge those pesky humans, who in spite of their genetics and upbringing, decide to live positive lives without APA professional help.

Instead, Psychology and Psychiatry have chosen to abandon all pretense of scientific rigor in exchange for popular societal and political acclaim. The barriers erected to meaningful research about homosexuality remind me of Genesis 3:23-24. In these verses the Lord God banished humanity from the Garden of Eden and placed an angel in the Garden to keep humanity away forever. By their actions, Psychology and Psychiatry appear content within their own Garden of Eden. They seem to consider the accouterments of a religion to be more attractive than those of a science. The under-voting and public attacks support the understanding that the DSM is as likely to accumulate political manifestos and marketing brochures as attempted scientific expositions.

Psychology and Psychiatry have chosen to relinquish scientific rigor for popular societal and political acclaim. With studies concerning homosexuality freed from objective analysis, advocates for social justice rely upon base antidotal politics to dominate debates.

Action of APA to remove homosexuality from list of disorders DSM http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/

Homosexuality and Sexual Orientation Disturbance: Proposed Change in DSM-II, 6th Printing, page 44
http://www.torahdec.org/Downloads/DSM-II_Homosexuality_Revision.pdf

The APA Decision
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+APA+decision+December+1973%3A+declassification+of+homosexuality+as...-a094598255

Exposed: The Myth That Psychiatry Has Proven That Homosexual Behavior Is Normal
http://traditionalvalues.org/content/article/30884/Exposed:%20The%20Myth%20That%20Psychiatry%20Has%20Proven%20That%20Homosexual%20Behavior%20Is%20Normal

26 posted on 03/21/2016 11:07:38 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Olog-hai

If these doctors are so smart, why haven’t they developed a vaccine?


27 posted on 03/21/2016 11:10:47 PM PDT by Misterioso (Jihadists are driven by the Prophet motive.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
homosexuality is an aberration....forget the Bible, look at Darwin....the survival of the species is what its all about and a species can not survive if its members don't breed...and homosexuals doing homosexual acts can not breed, period....

of course they cover up that little biological fact.....

God I think wants us to love all people....that I do....but lets call things the way they really are, not the way the pc crowd wants us to....

28 posted on 03/21/2016 11:12:14 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Olog-hai

Its not a disease, its a decision.


29 posted on 03/21/2016 11:20:00 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Retain Mike

Psychology/psychiatry are made-up pseudo-sciences anyway.


30 posted on 03/21/2016 11:22:55 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Olog-hai

Regardless, homosexual activity is not what the human body was biologically designed for. Those with this inclination certainly have thought processes that are not aligned with nature, but one must be compassionate with people who face this difficulty. Love the sinner and hate the sin, from a Christian perspective.


31 posted on 03/21/2016 11:34:25 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Olog-hai

Alcoholism is a disease, right?


32 posted on 03/21/2016 11:38:54 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Olog-hai

They were not subject to the PC pogrom enacted in the USA.........


33 posted on 03/21/2016 11:41:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: donna
...When Judaism demanded that all sexual activity be channeled into marriage...

Exactly where in scripture is this found?

Male-male homosexuality is certainly prohibited, as is adultery. But, adultery has a much more narrow definition than many think.

The Old Testament is full of polygamy and concubinage.

34 posted on 03/21/2016 11:42:15 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Olog-hai

BFL


35 posted on 03/21/2016 11:43:20 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Samwell Tarly
What I cannot figure out:

Even if there is a homosexual inclination, the choice whether or not to give in to it is still there. It's not like there's a genetic component telling a gay person "have sex or die".

I think you might be imagining that a gay person is just a heterosexual person with "homosexual inclinations". I don't think this is accurate. There are undoubtedly lots of such people. But there are obviously also those who are 100% gay, which appears to be an innate, basically unchangeable condition. Homosexuality may be a disease but it does not appear to be curable.

The homosexual lobby ... sees humans as creatures of uncontrollable instinct.

What percent of heterosexuals would be OK with completely repressing their sexual instincts? Even those who take vows of chastity seem to frequently have great difficulty with this.

36 posted on 03/21/2016 11:48:55 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Olog-hai

Technically it is a mental disorder, but that generally falls into the category of disease.


37 posted on 03/21/2016 11:55:06 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Olog-hai

Some doctors still think tuberculosis is a disease instead of what it properly is, a cultural characteristic of less privileged populations, and therefore must be treated as a civil right in the West


38 posted on 03/22/2016 12:01:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: CurlyDave; donna

“The Old Testament is full of polygamy and concubinage. “

I think that you are confusing the reporting of how people lived with approval of what they were doing. David was expressly told not to “multiply horses or wives”. He did both. His son Solomon exceeded him in doing both. David committed adultery with Bathsheba and then set her husband up to be killed. Moses murdered an Egyptian who was beating a Hebrew. Virtually every hero in the book has feet of clay or did something horrible. The Bible is somewhat unique among ancient manuscripts in reporting the great failings of its protagonists.


39 posted on 03/22/2016 12:12:46 AM PDT by Pelham (more than election. Revolution)
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To: Olog-hai

weird translation “disease” it’s a fekkin’ aberration of human nature.


40 posted on 03/22/2016 12:19:33 AM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (Shrimp Egg Foo Young- A tasty dish! gravy on the side please)
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