Posted on 03/23/2016 4:12:27 PM PDT by Washi
RUSH: Vinny in Long Island. Vinny, it's great to have you back on the program. It's been a while. It's good to see your name up on the board there. How you doing?
CALLER: Hi, Rush. Maybe that's another Vinny, but I'm a first-time, longtime, and probably a 95-percenter, which means --
RUSH: Oh, so you're not the usual Vinny? Okay.
CALLER: No, there's a lot of conservative Vinnies from Long Island (chuckles), as you can imagine.
RUSH: Well, there's a lot of people in Long Island, so, yeah. It would makes sense that there are a lot of them are named Vinny.
CALLER: Yeah, a lot of Vinnies.
RUSH: Right.
CALLER: Two points.
RUSH: (chuckling)
CALLER: I want to answer that point about surveillance about Cruz. My first point was that I have a hard time believing that of all those candidates up there, save for maybe Trump and Carson, that the GOP establishment didn't have some kind of connection to every single one of them, including Cruz. Most likely Cruz, because he was a lawyer in the Bush administration going way back to 2000. His wife worked for a lawyer, I think, also. For Condoleezza Rice on various different programs, which, you know, it's in doubt if she was for open borders or against open borders. You know, I don't know any of that stuff. But Cruz is definitely part of the establishment for a long, long time and, you know, he's made connections with 'em. He's a senator. He's not as anti-establishment as everybody would have him think. I mean, now the Bush endorsement --
RUSH: Well, now, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Let me take these one at a time so I can interrogate you.
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: Ah, ask you some questions you some questions.
CALLER: Sure.
RUSH: So you think because Cruz once worked for George W. Bush --
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: -- and Cruz's wife was with Goldman Sachs and Condoleezza Rice --
CALLER: Right.
RUSH: -- that all of that cancels out everything Ted Cruz says --
CALLER: No.
RUSH: -- and means that he's really just fooling you, that he's --
CALLER: No. No. No.
RUSH: -- as establishment as all these other blue-bloods are?
CALLER: No. No. I think it's just like, you know, he's one of them, but he has his own strong conservative values.
RUSH: Why do they hate him, Vinny?
CALLER: They hate him because he's against all their... um... let's call it "deal-making."
RUSH: Well?
CALLER: But here's the thing. Cruz is a lawyer himself. And you're never heard of a lawyer that does not make deals, do you? I mean, he's gonna make some deals on his own.
RUSH: (laughs)
CALLER: They're gonna be to his liking.
RUSH: Wait a second. That's all Trump is saying. Deal-making! That's what Trump is running on: A platform of deal-making.
CALLER: Yeah. But I think it's anti-establishment deal-making what Trump wants.
RUSH: Oh. Oh. (laughing)
CALLER: And Cruz, you know, unfortunately for him, he has... I mean, I liked him in the beginning. I mean, I really loved him. I thought he'd be a political (sic) vice president.
RUSH: Well, then what happened?
CALLER: What happened? I'll tell you what happened.
RUSH: What happened? If you liked him and he hasn't changed any, what happened?
CALLER: I'll give you a great explanation of why probably 90% of Trump supporters now hate him. Because he took out the long lawyer knives on Trump. And what I mean by that is he started to cast aspersions. He started to, uh, attack --
RUSH: He was the last! He was the last. He went longer than anybody not attacking!
CALLER: Yeah, I know, you're right. You're right. I'm not saying that's not true. It's true. Very true. But I guess when he reached certain point he thought, you know, "Hey, I got a shot at this, you know? I'm not gonna let this guy, you know, steamroll me. I'm a lawyer," and just... He really went after him in such a way that... Trump is not a lawyer. He's not gonna be able to respond to half of that stuff. He's gonna stand there looking foolish, I guess.
RUSH: You gotta be kidding.
CALLER: Yeah? This is the way I feel.
RUSH: Vinny, you can't be serious.
CALLER: This is the way I feel.
RUSH: You're telling me that because Cruz is a lawyer, he can go after Trump in certain ways that Trump can't react to and respond to 'cause Trump's not a lawyer, and a lawyer can make anybody look foolish, and you don't want him making Trump looking foolish because Trump's not a lawyer and Cruz is and so it isn't fair?
CALLER: He doesn't know how to respond in kind. I'm sorry, I think that's... I think that's the simple, simple explanation of it. Trump does his best with his New York style, which is kind of like mine. I mean, I'm a New Yorker.
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: And I understand Trump perfectly. I know he's not a liberal Democrat, otherwise he would have ran as a liberal Democrat. Right now, the election would have been over.
RUSH: Wait a minute. You gotta be very careful.
CALLER: Rush, it would have been over if he would have run as a liberal Democrat.
RUSH: You gotta be very careful on this New Yorker business.
CALLER: (chortles)
RUSH: Because that's really what this is about, isn't it?
CALLER: M'yeah. So --
RUSH: When Cruz came out and accused Trump of having "New York values," that was it with you, right? 'Cause you're New Yorker, and Trump's a New Yorker, and you New Yorkers you hang together. You know how you talk; you know what you mean when you say New York stuff --
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: -- and here comes Cruz! Here comes Cruz castigating all you. That was the last straw of that, right?
CALLER: Eh, only because I knew that Trump has been a lifelong conservative Republican. I mean, he was at the 1988 convention
RUSH: Yeah.
CALLER: I forgot where that was. Maybe New Orleans. I can't remember. And he was interviewed on CNN by Larry King, and he said, "Conservative Republican Donald Trump." That was 1988.
RUSH: I have to step in here, Vinny. Just a second. For all of you listening, getting close to driving off the road or the nearest cliff, pulling your hair out.
CALLER: (chuckling)
RUSH: Dial it back.
CALLER: (chuckling)
RUSH: We got it under control here.
CALLER: (chuckling)
RUSH: They're shouting at me out there. "What do you mean, 'lifelong conservative Republican'? He donated to Hillary! What are you talking about?"
CALLER: Peanuts!
RUSH: Vinny, they're shouting at their radio and at me.
CALLER: Peanuts. He gave them peanuts.
RUSH: Peanuts? (laughs) Folks, see? There's an answer for everything here! This is why I'm trying to demonstrate: You cannot, and nobody can -- and I'm not even trying to. You can't break this bond. You can hit with logic. You can refute. You can point out the allegations being made about Cruz are not true. "Ah, you're right. You're right." But it doesn't matter. I'm at peace with it. It is what it is. There have to be other techniques, road maps, routes to accomplish what needs to be accomplished here, from the Cruz standpoint. Anyway, Vinny, I appreciate the call. We now happily welcome you to The Vinny Club here at the EIB Network. So next time you call, you'll be the Vinny from Long Island.
No, he hasn't. He changed his party registration SIX times, he's given lots of money to liberal Democrats, he said a few years ago that he identified more as a Democrat, that the Republicans are just too extreme (and dumb, BTW -- that he could fool them), that he supported the stimulus. He praised 0bama, Hillary, DeBlasio, and others. He has endorsed the individual mandate and touchback amnesty.
Conservative? It doesn't look that way to me.
I don’t know why you would believe Trump. Certainly not if you investigate his record.
EXACTLY! You are 100 percent correct.
Why has Chris Christie come out in support of Trump? We can play that game all night.
Which ones?
Trump is a progressive.
Don’t give up on FReeRepublic. Election season silliness will end.
By this time next year, Trump supporters will either: reconcile themselves to the Cruz Presidency or to the fact that they’ve been duped by a snake oil con job and the Clinton White House it helped create.
Even if Trump were to win, posters here will have to reconcile that President Trump is someone far less ideologically constrained than they believed or hoped.
Any which way, sanity will return here.
Doesn’t matter, Cruz and Kasich are both Stealth Bushes who has done great harm to the country with open-borders and endless wars.
Gotta put on your orange-colored Trump glasses. Then you’ll see the conservatism. :-)
Trump donated to both parties, more to so-called Republicans, incl Cruz. WHY, he never seems to say this, I cannot say. In business, it is basically a part of networking. I dare say all big businesses do this. Is this good enough “logic” for you? But, hey, way to win over Trump supporters with your Mittens/Cruz elitist comments.
“As they saying goes; you can’t reason someone out of a position that they did not arrive at with reason in the first place.”
Just thought that need repeating.
Trump making deals with the democrats advancing the democrat agenda, the very same agenda that created the problems in the first place, is somehow supposed to solve the problem.
Don’t ask me I have no explanation for it.
Thank you for putting into words what I have struggled to define. I also suspected that Cruz had Aspergers. There is something about him that, as you say, does not connect. I’m still trying to finish his book, but I have to admit that it has not been a pleasant read. I see things in his writing that reveal some psychological blips. Which to be fair, may come from abandonment issues with his father leaving him at such a young age. Most of the book (so far) is a compilation of “name-dropping”. He has connected himself to all the elite persons he can recall ever meeting. He solved some problem or other for every one of them. I’m about ready to send him a Superman costume.
“Why has Chris Christie come out in support of Trump? We can play that game all night”
He could be the Attorney General which would not be a bad choice. So would Ted choose Lindsy Graham for Attorney General? What role is Jeb Bush going to play? Vice President? What has he promised Mitt Romney? What has he promised “The Club for Growth”.
Bottom line Ted has sold out to the GOPe. Even a blind man can see that. Is the GOPe going to say who he can appoint to the Supreme Court?
“So this shows the idiocy of Rush’s tactics. He’s prolonging the attacks on Trump as long as possible and will cause damage to the party.”
Pretty much sums it up. Seems like he is pursuing his part of the Sea Island strategy.
The caller brought up a good point. I went to a political donation tracking site (shared by a DT supporter) and I actually searched for every donation DT ever made. He gave many only 1 grand a piece.
I was wondering how he “bought” a politician for only $1k? Then I wondered, what about perks? Stay here for nothing, play golf there for nothing, gamble, and whatever else they do in his venues. Just saying.
Now, DT’s testimony against the Reagan economic plan included verbage that “credit limits” were hurting the real estate business and if it was lifted it would be great, really great for the economy. He did give $1k to Chris Dodd, but did he make any money in the real estate bubble?
Link to donation site:
http://www.politicalmoneyline.com/Default.aspx
Congressional testimony (watch him act humble):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw
Trump praised Hillary as doing a great job as SoS.
Since Hillary started ISIS I guess Trump’s praise of Hillary doing a great job includes her great job in starting ISIS.
If you want to write his praise of Hillary off to his lack of knowledge as to what was going on what could possibly lead you to believe he has the knowledge of what is going on now that he could keep us safe?
It’s interesting how you follow all the misdirections that Trump displays, but avoid all the real issues. That is Trump’s whole campaign avoiding the issues because of his inconsistent record and lack of substance.
“Unlike Cruz, I DO NOT support a brokered convention”
No Bob, you’re they guy that wants to make Trump Emperor.
If you noticed there are the same Freepers posting to the election threads most of which I skip because nothing new is ever said.
I try to post other topic threads (I did post the one about Kasich being open to having a dem vp!) but we really need to know what else is going on around the country.
Imagine what we are NOT learning because of how the current administration takes advantage of doing things while we are distracted, and the media, of course.
You are chasing conspiracy theories with Cruz. Look at his record as Solicitor General of Texas, his work removing barriers at the FTC, and his time in the Senate. Cruz has done just what we Texans sent him to do and that is to defend the Constitution and shake things up. Don’t fall for the misdirection.
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