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Vanity-If delegates choose our Nominee then voters should darn well get to vote for the delegates.

Posted on 04/18/2016 9:55:53 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas

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To: Dead Corpse

I have. My local party chair is an establishment rino. Tried the get involved route. Nice try.


61 posted on 04/18/2016 11:16:34 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Someone tell Cruz Karma is a BITCH.)
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To: The Continental Op
This seems a bit like saying “Don’t like the say the mafia works? Apply for a job as underboss and work for change within.

That's just a bunch of defeatist drivel. Grab some spine man, and open your eyes. The Tea Party didn't cower under their covers when things weren't going their way. This fall, our county will seize the school board from 20 years of liberal rule. Yeah, it took a lot of effort and commitment but things can be changed on a local, state and national level if you have some sand and show some spine.

62 posted on 04/18/2016 11:17:25 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: DaveyB
If ignorance truly is bliss, why are you trump supporters so angry and not happy?

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63 posted on 04/18/2016 11:19:57 AM PDT by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone....)
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To: DaveyB
It's comments like yours that simply pour gasoline on the fire of outrage in this country.

I'm a Trump supporter and I know how the system works. I'm familiar with grassroots politics, the delegate system, electoral laws, etc.. I'm not whining about the rules. Never have, never will.

Your post however indicates a complete ignorance of the corruption that exists within our political system today, and ignores the reality that the delegate system was introduced as a protection mechanism in both political parties as a means to protect the status quo. That has been created by a dynamic set of rules, capable of being changed by party insiders at the state and federal levels.

In short: the delegate system introduced in the 1970's which was designed to put a competitive structure around electing a President isn't the same delegate system we have today. The rules can change every election cycle (as they did in 2012, designed to lock out Ron Paul) and are seemingly at the will of party insiders, again at the state and federal level.

To play the "Ted Cruz followed the rules and won" card simply points to Cruz as being a "party insider" capable of following/bending the rules to reach the desired end. In today's world, that doesn't play with a pissed off electorate, as Ted Cruz and likely yourself are figuring out.

64 posted on 04/18/2016 11:20:02 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Cats Pajamas

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4f9n22/urgent_trump_needs_volunteers_for_election_day_in/


65 posted on 04/18/2016 11:20:30 AM PDT by orchestra ((And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.))
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To: goodnesswins
The delegate system is outdated...as is our Congressional system...ie...all of Congress power is concentrated in DC,

What is a Congressional system?

66 posted on 04/18/2016 11:20:39 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: grania
if his supporters hadn't been so darn nasty and arrogant, a lot more folks would've supported their rigged delegate selection claims. Oh the irony here is so laughably rich! Thank you for the chuckle.
67 posted on 04/18/2016 11:21:08 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Oh you “tried” but it turned out to be hard. And THAT is why they get to do whatever the hell they want. So many folks find that anything beyond complaining is just too much effort. Getting involved isn’t a one shot deal, it’s a commitment. If you want the local party to change, you need to WORK AT IT. You successfully identified the problem, but couldn’t be bothered with the solution (find the alliance of people who want to dump him, there’s always some, and HELP).


68 posted on 04/18/2016 11:22:03 AM PDT by discostu (This unit not labeled for individual sale)
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To: dp0622
Unless our guy wins outright before the convention, or does win first ballot, we rock and roll.

You'll type on your keyboard.

69 posted on 04/18/2016 11:22:06 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Let’s book for Cleveland now brother.

We get a room, split the rates.


70 posted on 04/18/2016 11:22:56 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Durbin

Cruz .. by .. hook .. or .. by .. Crook


71 posted on 04/18/2016 11:24:09 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: dp0622

I’ll be more than happy to share the info you need to know i’ll be there and i’ll expect you to pay me half when we meet.


72 posted on 04/18/2016 11:24:33 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Windflier
Rush is on now, defending the system.

That's because he carries the GOPe water. Always has and always will.

73 posted on 04/18/2016 11:25:14 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: discostu
Oh you “tried” but it turned out to be hard.

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74 posted on 04/18/2016 11:25:38 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Delegate spread sheet in PA. by district.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NfzyoWfwqjrYbc5Xqb9lyerxztNxLuZDzwPBarYZJFA/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0


75 posted on 04/18/2016 11:25:39 AM PDT by orchestra ((And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.))
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To: usconservative
To play the "Ted Cruz followed the rules and won" card simply points to Cruz as being a "party insider" capable of following/bending the rules to reach the desired end.

Trump could have played by the rules and won a large number of delegates without being a party insider. All he had to do was show up and care. He did neither. This is either a result of ignorance, indifference, or entitlement. Regardless of the reason, this should be a flashing red light that your chosen candidate isn't what's being advertised.

Instead of demonizing Ted or the party over a system that has been in place for decades, or in some cases more than 100 years, you should be questioning your candidate as to why he chooses to whine and hurl baseless accusations when he didn't even bother showing up. Like Trump said about the primary process: “Don’t forget, I only complain about the ones where we have difficulty.”

76 posted on 04/18/2016 11:27:33 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Dead Corpse
As far as analogies go, you suck.

You sure love to throw names about don't you? Is this the best you can come up with? Logical arguments and reasoning don't appear to be in your wheel house.

By the way, the analogy was spot on.

77 posted on 04/18/2016 11:30:41 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: discostu

Oh please spare me. I have been poll watcher, worked the booth at fairground when no one else showed. Worked headquarters, manned phone banks for weeks, walked neighborhoods, typed hundred of pages of voter lists at my home till all hours. Sell it somewhere else. You have no idea. You can keep your advice.


78 posted on 04/18/2016 11:32:40 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Someone tell Cruz Karma is a BITCH.)
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To: stratboy

Count me in the “analogy sucks” column. It was terrible.


79 posted on 04/18/2016 11:34:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dp0622

I don’t do crowds anymore. You should get hundreds of takers for your revolution or whatever it is you are hoping for in Cleveland.


80 posted on 04/18/2016 11:36:13 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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