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EMP alert: 2 N. Korean satellites now orbit over U.S
FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN WORLD NET DAILY ^ | 4/24/2015 | MICHAEL MALOOF

Posted on 04/27/2016 1:48:50 PM PDT by MarvinStinson

WASHINGTON – North Korea now has two satellites orbiting over the United States capable of performing a surprise electromagnetic pulse attack at an altitude and trajectory that evade U.S. National Missile Defenses, a national security expert warned in an interview with Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

Peter Vincent Pry told G2 Bulletin that the satellites can be commanded either to deorbit and hit a target on the ground or explode at a high altitude to create an EMP effect that would knock out the unprotected U.S. national electrical grid system and all life-sustaining critical infrastructures that depend on it.

“The threat,” Pry said, “continues to race, hare-like, at an alarming rate, compared to the tortoise pace of our preparations.”

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The satellites – KMS 3-2 and KMS 4 – are orbiting at an altitude of 300 miles, with trajectories that put them daily over the U.S. KMS 3-2 was launched in December 2012 and KMS 4 was launched Feb. 7.

At such an altitude, an EMP could impact much of the continental United States, according to EMP experts.

Get the rest of this report, and others, from Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

Pry is executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security and director of the U.S. Nuclear Strategy Forum, both congressional advisory boards. He also served on the congressionally mandated EMP commission and as an analyst with the Central Intelligence Agency.

Pry said that while the U.S. is aware of the satellites, it is unable to determine their payloads. The federal government hasn’t commented as much on the satellites as it has on North Korea’s ability to launch a missile capable of reaching the U.S.

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To: Mrs. Don-o

I understood you on the ‘war/way’ thing.

FYI, I know you well enough that you don’t need to explain this kind of thing to me.

(-:


61 posted on 04/27/2016 2:45:51 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MarvinStinson
Why does this dumbass story keep getting posted at FR? It's garbage that is a waste of bandwidth.
62 posted on 04/27/2016 2:48:40 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: DuncanWaring

We used to have telescopes that tracked and allowed real-time imaging of NEO stuff.

I think it was Teal Blue and Teal Amber, if memory serves, but not sure.

I hope we still have something at least that good. Should be a whole lot better.


63 posted on 04/27/2016 2:50:03 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: MarvinStinson


64 posted on 04/27/2016 3:00:34 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: MarvinStinson

I doubt that that satellite has a nuclear bomb. If it does we need to do something. But a 20 kiloton nuke is too big for a 100 pound satellite in 300 mile high orbit.


65 posted on 04/27/2016 3:06:40 PM PDT by WENDLE (TRUMP IS THE GREATEST AMERICAN SINCE GEORGE WASHINGTON!!)
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To: Pox

Somebody must be selling Faraday cages and heirloom seeds...


66 posted on 04/27/2016 3:09:28 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: DuncanWaring

If the thrust of the launch vehicle is known and used as a function of orbital insertion velocity and the orbital altitude is known then the mass can certainly be calculated to a close approximation.


67 posted on 04/27/2016 3:21:54 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: SaveFerris

True but civilian infrastructure is a whole different story.

The power grid isn’t nearly as hardened as it should be.


68 posted on 04/27/2016 3:22:31 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: pfflier

That requires knowledge also of the mass of the launch vehicle and duration of the engine burn.

Do we really know that much about the Nork “space program”?


69 posted on 04/27/2016 3:28:08 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: EEGator

Yup.


70 posted on 04/27/2016 3:33:05 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullete)
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To: Shadow44

Oh I know.

Even in “The Day After” they have an EMP burst before the two ICBM warheads strike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSvWSlmefUU

They were showing EMP as the precursor to a big one even back then.


71 posted on 04/27/2016 3:37:06 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: DuncanWaring
Do we really know that much about the Nork “space program”?

We at least do by class of launch vehicle. Stage/vehicle length, stage diameter and fuel composition (solid or liquid) can be pretty much compared to known standards. Even an educated guess would tell us the difference between a 2,000 pound payload and something more or less.

The reason I chose 2,000 lbs is that it is the composite internet listed weight of the MK-21 RV/MK-84 (800 lbs) and a primitive control and maneuvering buss estimated at 1,200 lbs.

It is very likely that a long term orbiting system capable of maneuvering would weigh much more because of fuel on board requirements. Also a crude nuke would weigh much more than a MK-21. So we are looking at a class of launch vehicle that would put up something like a 4,000 ++ pound payload into low earth orbit.

For reference, Trident missile puts a 6,200 pound payload into a ballistic arc and does not achieve orbit. Think the NORKS can beat that yet much less achieve orbit with that kind of payload?

72 posted on 04/27/2016 4:12:01 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Reverend Wright

“or that any EMP bomb on them was actually made by N Korea ?”

Prudent thought.

It is true, North Korea has been the “whipping boy” of Chinese advanced weapons testing for some time.

China has mastered using international surrogate entities, both corporate and national, for strategic purposes. It’s out of the weapon systems lane, but think - Panama Canal.

But man, this is not a convenient thought for most Americans.


73 posted on 04/27/2016 4:51:16 PM PDT by patriotfury (May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tent!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Do you realize how far out a geosynchronous orbit is?


74 posted on 04/27/2016 6:02:06 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

Some 22,000 miles out? -— about 1/10 the distance of the Moon.


75 posted on 04/27/2016 6:27:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, They danced by the light of the moon.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good, then you realize that is not the 300 mile low earth orbit as described in the article.


76 posted on 04/27/2016 7:11:33 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

Right. My point was that there are orbits which would appear stationary from a point on earth. Not that a 300-mile low earth orbit could achieve this.


77 posted on 04/27/2016 7:33:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I never said half the things I said." - Yogi Berra)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Right now if they have birds up their threat is more of a potential nuisance to others type of risk than anything. That risk being more space trash. Unless they had lots of help in guidance I doubt they could hit a 500 mile circle on de-orbit with accuracy.


78 posted on 04/27/2016 8:26:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: pfflier

“I am smart enough to know that, if the national command authorities tracked the launch, they would know the point of origin (North Korea) ...”

but apparently not smart enough to realize that what is launched from N Korea could have originated in another country.


79 posted on 04/27/2016 8:43:43 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (UK out of EU; UN out of USA !)
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To: MarvinStinson
In order to be emp, would have to have a nuclear payload ON THE Sat.

I think probably we have ways to detect that sort of threat, and deal with it before it explodes over the conus.

yeah, even with the muslim in chief.

80 posted on 04/27/2016 8:47:59 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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