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Rattlesnake Island: The Facts, Fear and Reality
WWLP ^ | April 28, 2016 | Ryan Walsh

Posted on 04/29/2016 6:59:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Dusty Road
Thanks for the range map update. You are correct. I had heard they were going to split the species into the northern timber and southern canebrake, but apparently the split has not occurred.

I've only seen one true timber rattler and that was in the Great Smokies. Beautiful snake.

41 posted on 04/30/2016 7:41:16 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Salamander

You’re welcome!


42 posted on 04/30/2016 7:42:22 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Salamander

That is just not true! They have a very slow digestive system, while some made feed at a faster rate Rattlers eat no more than a few times a year.


43 posted on 04/30/2016 9:10:19 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Flycatcher

I wondered if anyone would pick up on that. The timber rattler southern border stops in Missouri or Arkansas.

I have seen many timber rattlers in Missouri. They don’t want to take on anything bigger than themselves and the rattle is a warning to stay away. They really don’t want to get involved in a fight.

The snake I don’t like is the water moccasin. I have met up a lot of them and they are vicious. They will stand their ground whereas a rattler will run.


44 posted on 04/30/2016 10:13:08 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Dusty Road

“Hate to bust your bubble but East Texas has a large population of Timber Rattlers.”

I had forgotten about that. The rural county I lived in specified one of the rattlers as endangered and when I found that out my reaction was “Wait, What?”.

I lived in Missouri for many years and the timber rattlers are thick. Fortunately they are not aggressive.

The best advice I can give is the SOP for Missouri:

Most all snakebites are below the ankle, therefor:

Where hiking boots and make noise with your feet as you walk around. I can’t remember how many rattlers I spotted running from me when I walked loudly through the forest, especially at night.


45 posted on 04/30/2016 10:23:41 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Graybeard58

Agreed. I just don’t like snakes.


46 posted on 04/30/2016 11:50:46 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Dusty Road

Rattlesnakes have a highly-efficient digestive system which takes a lot of metabolic energy, as does searching or prey.
After a rattlesnake swallows its prey, it will normally hide out while the meal is digested.
Rattlesnakes become sluggish while digesting, a process that can take several days depending on the size of the meal.
They average about two weeks between meals, when food is available.
Young rattlers eat much more frequently.

Perhaps you have mistaken them for Boa Constrictors, which do have a relatively slower digestive system., since they are ambush predators who lay around and wait for food to happen by, rather than actively hunting, like rattlers do.


47 posted on 04/30/2016 12:15:09 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: nickcarraway

“Nowhere else in New England I can imagine is a better place to try this experiment,” said Tom Tyning.

I think your backyard would be better, Tom.

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48 posted on 04/30/2016 12:16:14 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Flycatcher

Yet the ignorance stumbles on...

;D

I’m still laughing about the people who were “chased by snakes”.

I bet it was Coachwhips, who bit their own tails and rolled like hoops, after them.

/snerk!


49 posted on 04/30/2016 12:18:10 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: Salamander
I would laugh at your ‘expertise’’, were it not so pointlessly destructive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again, more carefully.

In one post you write rattlesnakes eat about every two weeks. In another you write they are opportunistic and eat whenever they can to live through periods of food scarity. Which is it? You sound like an idiot.

50 posted on 04/30/2016 12:52:26 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (behind enemy lines)
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To: MrEdd
Here is another good use for a rattlesnake...

Can't say I've ever tasted one but there's a first time for everything.


51 posted on 04/30/2016 12:59:45 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Cruz and Kasich are in COLLUSION with the establishment GOP - cannot be trusted!)
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To: Salamander
With no more snakes, the Lyme vectors flourished.

You're a snake lover and I respect your opinion. With that being said, Michigan has it's own lyme disease vectors along the western coast line from the Ohio border to the top of the state but yet all the counties eastward have as yet no evidence of Lyme, especially since we have no rattlesnakes here in Michigan.

As much as I don't wish to disagree with you, I suspect this study from the outset was designed with the purpose to reintroduce an alleged endangered species in order to control a contrived crisis........

52 posted on 04/30/2016 1:39:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: buffaloguy
We had to clean water moccasins out of our swimming hole several times a year when I was a kid. Six or seven eight year Olds with their father's shovels are more than a match. We hung them on a spindly little tree by the creek.

The snakes I hate are the side winders we had at Twenty-nine Palms. There is something just wrong about a snake that can outrun you.

53 posted on 04/30/2016 1:46:13 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

It’s so amusing when someone has utterly no valid or sane argument to support them, that they resort to ad hominem.

It’s a pity that sad misinterpretation of what I said is all you can come up with.

Comprehension is your friend.


54 posted on 04/30/2016 2:00:12 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The connection between the eradication of CT’s rattlesnakes predates this thing they’re trying to do by quite a few years.

My point was, had CT not utterly annihilated the main vector eater, perhaps Lyme would not be everywhere, now.

Maybe we should all start propagating possums.

:)


55 posted on 04/30/2016 2:05:35 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: Salamander
Maybe we should all start propagating possums.

I'll be more than happy to provide you with all the possums you want........you just pay the shipping. LOL!

56 posted on 04/30/2016 3:23:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Salamander

As a side note,I have a couple skunks that may be living under my deck or my neighbor’s that I could send for free....LOL!


57 posted on 04/30/2016 3:25:01 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Salamander
I think you and me may be the only hardcore Ophidiophiles (fancy word for snake lovers) here on FR. As you may know, I'm a professional bird surveyor but in the field, I'm ALWAYS looking for snakes. Last year, during the field season, I stumbled upon 8 Great Basin rattlers, 1 sidewinder, 1 western diamondback, and innumerable Mohave Greens.

I also created the Coachwhip Club many years ago. To become a member, you must catch a coachwhip, and have it bite you. Funny thing is, it's an extremely easy club to enter. Why? Because if you can actually catch a coachwhip, it will ALWAYS bite you. Last year was a banner year. We had four new, young field biologists become members! Haha!

All the best, Salamander!

58 posted on 04/30/2016 3:54:07 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Actually, I would be overjoyed to have them!

[the skunks, not so much]

;D


59 posted on 04/30/2016 7:00:18 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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To: Flycatcher

Wow, what a thrill those must have been.

I get giddy if I see a Garter or Milk Snake in my yard.

I have loved snakes ever since I was very small girl, much to the horror of my severely phobic dad.

My parents learned to dread my return, every time I went to play in the woods or fields.

I rarely came home alone.

To them, the words “Guess what I got” was tantamount to the first line in every horror story ever told.

;D


60 posted on 04/30/2016 7:10:34 PM PDT by Salamander (We're pain, we're steel, a plot of knives...)
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