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For Tesla Owner, Losing a Wheel Was Just the First Surprise
http://www.nytimes.com ^ | By NEAL E. BOUDETTE and ANNALYN KURTZ

Posted on 06/12/2016 10:03:04 AM PDT by BBell

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To: dearolddad

Yeah, gramps had me listening to a lot of oldies when growing up. We would have a contest to see how we could twist song titles. He usually won.


21 posted on 06/12/2016 10:39:13 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Yeah, gramps had me listening to a lot of oldies when growing up. We would have a contest to see how we could twist song titles. He usually won.


22 posted on 06/12/2016 10:39:28 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: mowowie

I can spot those old Lincolns from a mile away. They’ve all had their air suspensions fail, and look like low riders.


23 posted on 06/12/2016 10:39:51 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: katana

back in the early-mid 80’s my cousin bought a sweet expensive looking Saab... the front wheel fell off 3 weeks later in a parking lot.
6-7 years later had an uncle buy a similar Saab, he returned it soon after.
It’s not just Tesla...


24 posted on 06/12/2016 10:41:26 AM PDT by mowowie (Press 2 for deportation)
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To: Rational Thought
In fairness, I had a new 1989 Lincoln Towncar that also broke a ball joint with 1000 miles on it.

"In more fairness", in 1989, I had a Toronado, which took me to a beer joint, and a painted angel broke my balls. Ford did not replace them, but I recovered.

25 posted on 06/12/2016 10:45:38 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: katana

The car wasn’t “practically new”, it was a 2013 with 70K miles.

Look at this video showing the Tesla owner demonstrating the bad ball joints on his car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgdKZMlzQog

With ball joints that bad, the front end of that car must have been making horrible clunking noises for a long, long time.

The owner was clearly negligent in not having the problem addressed until there was a catastrophic failure.

The owner needs to read the warranty pages of his owner’s manual where it talks about the owner’s responsibility to seek service when there is evidence of a problem or an impending failure.

What I believe is the current warranty appears here:

https://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/blog_attachments/model_s_new_vehicle_limited_warranty_2.1.pdf

This is not necessarily the same as the one that was in effect for the 2013 model year, but it is certainly similar.

All that said, I am not defending Tesla for requiring an NDA or tying that to a reduced repair cost. That’s unacceptable.


26 posted on 06/12/2016 10:48:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: Lockbox

Aren’t all the wheels electric drive wheels on the Tesla?

Breaking a ball joint would probably mean electronics and electrical connections also were torn or affected somehow.


27 posted on 06/12/2016 10:51:16 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: mowowie

You’re right, of course, and I have my own “Saab Story” to tell. When the car was running well it was a terrifically fun drive. But something would go wrong every couple weeks. I’ve not owned another European car since.


28 posted on 06/12/2016 10:52:07 AM PDT by katana
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To: BenLurkin
"Dirt road in a Tesla?"

The guy thought it was a real car.

Buyer beware, the Romans had a saying for that.

29 posted on 06/12/2016 10:52:21 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: mowowie
bought a jap Infiniti after that nightmare.

Yeah, cause that janky brand has no problems./s

30 posted on 06/12/2016 10:52:53 AM PDT by 03A3 (The reset is gonna be epic.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I think you’re mostly right. The owner of something similarly priced, like a Maserati Quattroporte, would likely get similar treatment from Maserati under similar conditions.

But even the best car makers get things very wrong occasionally, how much more so novices like Tesla.


31 posted on 06/12/2016 11:00:25 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: lacrew

yea it’s horrible, mine failed while on my way to a service call while stuck in traffic on the Tobin Bridge in Boston.
Only the driver side failed so the car was tilted to the left.
Every pebble i hit felt like a boulder.
ugh
That POS car didn’t help me much with my boss at the time...
I ended up giving the car away for free, guy put on aftermarket coil over shocks...don’t know if he fixed the other 50 problems though...


32 posted on 06/12/2016 11:02:00 AM PDT by mowowie (Press 2 for deportation)
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To: BBell

Oh look the outbord rocket motor just fell off ...


33 posted on 06/12/2016 11:21:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: jjotto
But even the best car makers get things very wrong occasionally, how much more so novices like Tesla.

And car makers need to own up to those problems and fix them rather than trying to cover them up, especially when problems have the potential to kill people, as happened with the GM ignition switch problem, which they tried to sweep under the rug while their customers were dying on the road.

Whether or not Tesla should have be legally liable for performing the repairs under warranty is hard to say without reading the exact wording, but as a "novice", they most certainly should have, since it appears that this wasn't an isolated problem.

But instead, they denied and deflected, accusing the complainants of fraud.

34 posted on 06/12/2016 11:23:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: Rational Thought
In fairness, I had a new 1989 Lincoln Towncar that also broke a ball joint with 1000 miles on it. Ford took care of the issue free of charge.
I remember an article, long ago in the Reader’s Digest, wherein a motorist had an axle break. It was a Rolls Royce, and he notified the company and ordered a new axle. Rolls replaced it free of charge, saying it could not possibly charge him to fix an axle, since Rolls Royce axles do not break.

35 posted on 06/12/2016 11:28:08 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: BBell
#1 Maybe one of the rockets engines fall off or a thruster gets stuck.
Other Telsa cars : )
Blnk
36 posted on 06/12/2016 11:32:29 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: BBell

Tesla, we have a problem . . . but don’t worry - we won’t tell anybody.


37 posted on 06/12/2016 11:45:52 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Didn’t Volkswagen get into trouble for something similar?


38 posted on 06/12/2016 11:46:31 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: SkyDancer

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.


39 posted on 06/12/2016 11:52:18 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: SkyDancer

Did you that this year is Kenny Rogers’ last world tour? It’s called The Gambler’s Last Deal.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/kenny-rogers-reveals-farewell-tour-dates-the-ram-report-20160418


40 posted on 06/12/2016 12:15:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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