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Orlando survivor admits TRAPPING other club-goers inside after he escaped... 'doing the right thing'
Mail ^ | 6-15-16

Posted on 06/15/2016 1:40:46 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

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To: InvisibleChurch

Can’t help but post this in bad taste

The Simpsons

Mr. Burns plans a good ol’ fashioned fire drill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUWzntkujE0


61 posted on 06/15/2016 4:01:56 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: InvisibleChurch
This article says he locked the door. Other articles say he held it closed -- and don't say for how long. Given that this article is from the British press one might well be skeptical.

Whoever was banging on the door (and he would have to know that it was somebody trying to get out) may well be dead now, and that's on Burbano's conscience.

Holding the door closed until your group can get safely away and locking it after you are two very different things, though, and people will judge those acts differently.

62 posted on 06/15/2016 4:08:36 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Correct. We really need to wait a bit to verify which of the two it was. If he was holding the door shut with a possible shooter on the other side, he was a brave man. There was a professor named Libresku at Virginia Tech who did that to protect his class and died for it. On the other hand, locking the door when he knew others were trying to use it to escape is a very, very different matter. Either way, it was ugliest for the people inside.


63 posted on 06/15/2016 4:14:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: InvisibleChurch

“I don’t have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun YOU.”


64 posted on 06/15/2016 5:07:53 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And you’re an asshole.


65 posted on 06/15/2016 5:15:02 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova
And you’re an asshole.

Thanks, that's the most intelligent thing you've had to say all evening.........


66 posted on 06/15/2016 6:33:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My only regret in life is being too young to get to know my grandfathers before they died)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Americans are already being tutored in what to do during a terror attack, courtesy of our Leftist Masters.

In case of a confrontation with violence, you’re supposed to fall to your knees, weep, and beg like a dog.

Above all, don’t - DO NOT - take responsibility for your own defense via firearms.

Our nation’s kids are taught this from elementary school on up.


67 posted on 06/15/2016 6:38:57 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: skinndogNN

When I first read it, it sounded as though he believed that the shooter was after a specific victim - himself. That is, the shooter knew his intended target had escaped through that door. He was shooting everyone in sight trying to get to the door. (The shots were getting louder and closer).

The intended target was holding the door shut.

It’s just a theory but it appears to fit the facts.


68 posted on 06/15/2016 6:51:20 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: workerbee

You forgot your sarcasm indicator


69 posted on 06/15/2016 7:16:01 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: InvisibleChurch; Old Sarge; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Art in Idaho; Candor7; easternsky; ...

PING!!

Article, comments

Check out #54 and #62


70 posted on 06/15/2016 8:49:54 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Rocks; PGalt; unread

Here’s where ppl are getting the crisis actor theory:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3483499/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1


71 posted on 06/15/2016 9:09:35 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We can't fix a rigged system with the people who rigged it." (Donald J. Trump - June 7, 2016)
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To: Roccus; unread; rawcatslyentist; 21twelve; PGalt

“Read somewhere that this guy is an actor...one of those “crisis” actors.”

I know what you mean by “crisis actor” since there allegedly were a bunch at the Sandy Hook aftermath. Here’s another actor that was evidently inside Pulse nightclub during the shooting too. It certainly does make for really good footage for the media to have trained actors to interview after all these recent terrorist attacks.

Patience Carter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641598/Surviving-friend-teen-murdered-Orlando-massacre-sobs-guilt-recounts-shooter-asked-black-people-bathroom-stall-hiding-spare-having-suffered-enough.html


72 posted on 06/15/2016 10:45:42 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: InvisibleChurch

Good thing the military has such accurate gaydar!/S

What he did was criminal.


73 posted on 06/16/2016 12:37:26 AM PDT by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Carthego delenda est

Thanks.

Very much.


74 posted on 06/16/2016 1:57:17 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: bravo whiskey
Good point.

I listen to a gun show on the radio sometimes. I have concluded that being able to use a firearm properly in a crisis situation is a likely a lot like Karate. Situations need to be practiced and reviewed constantly.

I have a concealed carry permit but don't carry. I don't have the will and determination to give it the mental and physical practice it needs. I really do have another life other than self defense.

By the way, I have been a green belt in Tae Kwon Do 3 times. Here, too, I just don't have enough interest to give it the practice and mental energy needed.

75 posted on 06/16/2016 4:39:15 AM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: GizzyGirl
...I can’t imagine living with his guilt if what I think happened, happened!

Not sure what you think but if you have listened to his account and believe he ought to feel guilty, perhaps this will help:

Imagine you are the one responsible for assuring the already dangerously overloaded lifeboat doesn't capsize - and there are yet many in the water attempting to climb in.

76 posted on 06/16/2016 5:10:20 AM PDT by frog in a pot (That our commander-in-chief can be foreign born to a foreign father thrills the one-worlders.)
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