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Donald Trump Meeting NRA to Discuss Terror Watch List Gun Ban
Inquisitr ^ | 6/15/16 | Rider Torrance

Posted on 06/16/2016 5:33:53 AM PDT by RC one

Donald Trump has announced he will meet with the NRA to discuss if people on the terrorist watch list or the no-fly list should be allowed to purchase guns, according to WIRED.

The NRA’s executive director for its Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox, said the NRA has a strong opinion on this, according to CNN.

“The NRA’s position on this issue has not changed,” Cox said. “The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing.”

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To: NorthMountain
Was the Fort Hood murderer on the "Terror Watch List"? Were the San Bernardino murderers on the "Terror Watch List"? Was the Orlando murderer on the "Terror Watch List"? Were the Boston Marathon bombers on the "Terror Watch List"?

They were all on the radar.

Do you believe for an instant that being on a "Terror Watch List" would have prevented them carrying out their crimes?

Just publish the list.

Are you in league with Barack Hussein 0bama, Hillary Clinton, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and Jeh Johnson in favoring secret "No Guns" lists and universal background checks?

No, are you still molesting children?

61 posted on 06/16/2016 6:27:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Canadians can't be our President.)
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To: pepsionice
-- The Supreme Court will get this episode in roughly two years, and the lack of a open due process will fail the law... --

No way. The law will have due process (not the kind you think, but it will be due process), and SCOTUS will either refuse the case or uphold the law.

You're right that the law will not be a deterrent. It is feel good and make work for list makers and maintainters.

62 posted on 06/16/2016 6:27:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: PJammers
-- We all have to submit to a background check when purchasing firearms. --

Not for transfers for example between friends and family members.

63 posted on 06/16/2016 6:29:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: RC one
The current terror watch lists are everything a Big Government liberal should love -- no idea how people get on them, no idea how people get off them, and they create the illusion of safety instead of actually providing it.

Totally ineffectual Big Government at work. With plenty of cheerleaders here.

64 posted on 06/16/2016 6:31:57 AM PDT by gdani
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
They were all on the radar.

Yeah, right. And that accomplished what, exactly?

Just publish the list.

OK. I posed a bunch of question upthread about who gets on these lists, how they get there, and how innocent people get off the lists. Can you actually answer them?

No

Right. You at least want the "denial of constitutional rights without due process" lists to be public. It's still a dumb idea, and gives even more power to a government that has proven its untrustworthiness.

65 posted on 06/16/2016 6:34:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: NorthMountain
-- The pernicious evil of this secret watch list business is easy to miss. --

The pernicious evil of the government as a whole is easy to miss. The sound bite that will be provided is that "this law includes due process." The listener will translate that into "whatever." Well, the political prisoners sent to the gulags had due process too.

Trusting any government is the first step to having yourself or your posterity subjugated. I think it's too late. The government can easily overpower the people. The experiment of having the people in charge of their own government is over. It is claimed to exist, sure, same all over the world.

66 posted on 06/16/2016 6:43:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 109ACS

This is giving a bit too much power to the Government—and it will be abused—Look at the IRS? Look at the FBI. What happens when Liberals are out of power and “Put on a Watch List”?


67 posted on 06/16/2016 6:46:28 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: RC one
Some are worried that Trump is caving - I see his wanting to talk with the NRA as a good thing. He will hear what needs to be heard and likely heed their advice and reasoning.

To some, it may sound like a good idea, but there are too many problems with it, especially as so many have been put on the list for political expediency vs. any terror connections. If they are on the list for valid reasons, they shouldn't be walking around free to plan and commit murder - that would solve the problem of their buying weapons....

68 posted on 06/16/2016 6:47:33 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: RC one

Seems to me the ‘terror watch list’ is handled by very incompetent people.

And lots of qualifiers to the ‘protected class’, which render it (almost) completely useless.

If we don’t solve the PC culture as the root problem, prohibiting anything including the guaranteed right from the Constitution is absolutely fruitless.


69 posted on 06/16/2016 6:52:09 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: RC one

Do we know what criteria is used to stick people on the list? Just watch the current criteria expanded to include any number of groups - previous gun purchasers, tea party folks, Christians, conservatives, registered Republicans, members of conservative forums - all fair game.

For all we know, every one of us here at FR could be on a list of some kind, if not on the no fly list - yet.

This is just another power grab and attempt to prevent people from exercising both their 2nd and 1st Amendment rights.

Don’t fall for it and don’t expect for SCOTUS to save the day.

I would be totally surprised if even left wing groups such as the ACLU would support this.


70 posted on 06/16/2016 6:55:53 AM PDT by randita
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To: NorthMountain

71 posted on 06/16/2016 7:06:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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ping


72 posted on 06/16/2016 7:15:37 AM PDT by mykroar (Democrats in 2016: The party of genitalia, real or imagined.)
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To: RC one

Yep. My mother, age 72 was on the no fly list....some scumbag with similar name with warrants out. Took her MONTHS to get off of it, with the help of liberal Dem. Vic Snyder believe it or not.

The headache didn’t end there. YEARS after getting off the list, I got her signed up for TSA Precheck and Global Entry. Nope. Feds say she can’t have TSA precheck or Global entry because, at one point, she was on a no fly list. A couple of thousand dollars in lawyer fees letter, with Senator John Bozeman and Congressman Tim Griffin, we FINALLY persuaded them that she is a good citizen.

72 years old, 800+ credit score, no arrests, no traffic citations, NOTHING....(she did get a C in badminton in 1958).

The “No fly/No Buy” legislation sounds good, but the .gov will screw that up too. Call your Congresscritter and Senator and tell them this story.

I will.


73 posted on 06/16/2016 7:31:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: RC one

Guns didn’t kill anyone in Orlando, an Islamic terrorist did.

They’ve managed again to change the conversation. No one’s even talking about the terrorists in the msm, only guns.


74 posted on 06/16/2016 7:40:53 AM PDT by Kenny (e)
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To: RC one
.Gov bans felons from owing guns. Yet still releases them from prison. If they as are so dangerous to be not allowed to own a firearm, then they are too dangerous to be in society. Just as a bad guy can kill people without a gun...duh.

All gun restrictions need to be scrapped.

75 posted on 06/16/2016 7:45:48 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Little Ray
Trumptards?

Lesson in common sense posting. When you begin with an idiotic word or phrase, you eliminate any reason to read further.

Oh, and you are a Clintard!

76 posted on 06/16/2016 7:46:14 AM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("It's always good to be underestimated." ~Donald Trump)
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To: RC one

If they are on a watch list why haven’t they already been investigated?


77 posted on 06/16/2016 8:27:22 AM PDT by jch10 (Obama, now out of excuses.)
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To: jch10

Probably because the FBI is too busy watching freeper types.


78 posted on 06/16/2016 8:34:23 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Defiant

I am, reluctantly, voting for Trump.
The Devils We Know, Hillary! and Mad Uncle Bernie, are so bad, that Trump can’t be worse and might, possibly, be better.
Doesn’t mean I trust him even one tiny bit.


79 posted on 06/16/2016 8:34:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the... shot as an enemy combatant.”

Yeah, we don’t need any due process rights or even the 1st 10 ammendments! Screw all that and let’s just put names on a list and move them to execution camps!

Remember when the US Attorney General was advising that we add Tea Party members, Veterans, folks with Gadsden flags and any number of other things to the Terror watch list?

It is astounding that such a comment would be made on any freedom loving forum.


80 posted on 06/16/2016 8:49:33 AM PDT by CSM (White wine sipping, caviar munching, Georgetown cocktail circuit circulating, Perrier conservative.)
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