Posted on 07/03/2016 9:51:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin
A search vessel looking for the remains of victims of the EgyptAir plane that crashed into the Mediterranean in May has recovered all of the mapped bodies from the sea floor, investigators say.
The Mauritian-based ship John Lethbridge is now sailing to Alexandria in Egypt.
It will later return to the crash site to look for more bodies.
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It said Egyptian and French forensic doctors on board the vessel oversaw the body recovery process.
The remains are due to be examined by prosecutors and forensic specialists in Alexandria before going to Cairo for DNA analysis.
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I bet that’s not pretty.
The fish and bottom feeders won’t let all that protein lay there very long. They have to eat, too.
So they have recovered all the bodies from a mile down but still haven’t decoded the flight recorders? I almost believe that, not. Covering up the flight recorder data only leads to one conclusion.
They have not recovered all the bodies.
In-flight recorder data analysis takes time, lots of it. It is not like a tape-recorder and you hit play-back.
Raw instrumentation and engine data and (if lucky) some cockpit recordings, they all need to be extracted and assembled and analyzed. . .and that takes time to get a picture of what happened, in what sequence, what failed or didn’t, and what flight control inputs were done and if pilot initiated. . .all hard to piece together.
There is not a single place where the data is “played-back.” Need the OEM experts, from airframe to engines to the various instrumentation companies, they all have their areas of expertise and they are the ones that review their portion of the data. Huge effort.
Again, this is not a tape-recorder and all you do is hit “play-back” and the entire flight is re-created.
Give me a break. This ain’t my first rodeo. I’ve been around the aviation industry all my life. Your excuse doesn’t cover the cockpit voice recorder. Go apologize somewhere else.
Honest question... Why?
It seems a program could be written to make the device a plug and play with a 3d simulation of just what happened while the voices of the crew give the actual narration. This isn’t the 1960s any more.
Interesting. . .an emotional and insulting response to a post that was unemotional and fact-based.
Not everyone that disagrees with you or provides additional information, or even a correction, is your enemy and looking for a flame war.
Great question. Yes, would be nice if a nice single data-stream from the black-boxes re-constructs the mishap sequence on a single down-load.
Short answer: reliability, cost, proprietary and legal.
Reliability: There are two “black-boxes,” not one. The second black-box is the one that usually has the technical data (the ones-and-zeros) and is separated from the other black-box. Don’t want to have them too close together as you increase the chances of losing both, especially in the case of an in-flight break-up. The second usually has the voice recordings. Additionally, impact G-forces are tremendous and while the black-boxes usually survive, you don’t want to put all your eggs in one basket.
Cost: Imagine the cost to the entire fleet world-wide when you already have perfectly good data-collection method. And there is the issue of level of detail, data sequencing and integration of all data collected. Nice to watch a video of the mishap, but this would require all data from the various sensors/instrumentation be open architecture and not proprietary.
Proprietary and Legal: Various OEMs and component manufacturers are restricted from accessing data and inputs from other OEMs and component manufacturers, so producing a single data-stream would be problematic from a legal and proprietary perspective. Not to mention the challenge to separate the data-stream you need from the assembled data to protect proprietary programming and instrumentation inputs.
A thought to consider: Early release of partial information could be confusing, misleading and rattle those not experienced in mishap investigations and send them all over the place when subsequent information is released that doesn’t completely align with their pre-conceived biases derived from incomplete information previously released. . .talk about fanning the flames of tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theories. And the cockpit voice recording is not the sum-total of what happened, and absent context, pretty much meaningless and oft-times misleading.
Therefore, professional mishap investigators do not piece-meal release of major incident information. The investigation is conducted, data collected and analyzed, and a comprehensive report written and published. This takes time.
Sorry, maybe I was a little cranky before my coffee kicked in. Your post was well taken but doesn’t account for the CVR. I believe they are stalling the findings because it will confirm what many of us believe. If they stall ling enough, we’ll forget.
No worries.
We shall see what shakes out.
After all this time I wonder what was left to recover. I remember my dentist telling me either his brother or cousin was part of the recovery team that brought up JFK jr and his wife and SIL. He said the bodies were totally encrusted in crabs and and the team had to blow off percussion grenades to get the crabs off. Yuck.
I don’t doubt that by now, not much was left to get DNA from. Nothing edible stays uneaten for long, in the seas. Crabs, lobsters etc are the ‘Little Hoovers’ of the ocean floor.
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