Posted on 10/14/2016 10:51:19 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Edited on 10/14/2016 10:59:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Working Link: GOV'T BANS SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 7 PHONES FROM AIRLINERS
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The Samsung Note 7 that caught fire on the SouthWest Airline flight had already been powered down. . . so much for that advice.
Usually, any mention of their product, good or bad, is acceptable because all the consumer is going to remember in the long run is the name of the company, but this is not going to do that. . . but NO company wants such negative advertising as this. They WILL remember the name and in this instance the circumstances.
Usually in the circumstances it will go in one ear and out the other. But when it relates to FIRE and EXPLODING or specifically mentioned in relation to flight safety? Not so much. That sticks as a negative to the product name!
Samsung washers supposedly explode also.
I imagine there was a lot of gut wrenching double-checking of the batteries on the Apple side when they first heard the news. And a lot of clinking of the champagne glasses in the aftermath.
My brother has a Samsung refrigerator. Now I’m concerned. /s
Frankly, I think that Lithium Ion batteries do not respond well to rapid charge cycles as well as Samsung and other Android makers think they do. I think the process causes internal changes that may make them susceptible to rapid overheating on discharge. This rapid overheating can be exacerbated by slight physical damages during construction or even pressure on the battery case which may precipitate an arcing inside the battery case. Slow trickle charging does not precipitate this overheating. Fast charging does.
The normal, expected failure rate in Lithium Ion batteries is one in 8 million per year, yet these Samsung devices were failing at about 250 per million per month, or ~3,000 times that normal rate.
Apple has deliberately chosen to not implement rapid charging for a reason they will not go into to. . . I suspect this is the reason.
Thanks - that is an interesting perspective, and sounds very plausible.
I suspect that your supposition (i.e., that the reason Apple has not incorporated “rapid charging” into its iPhones yet is the problems it can cause lithium ion batteries) is correct and that Apple is being appropriately cautious.
It may be that Apple is taking a very rational step-by-step approach to adopting rapid charging only when they have ALL their software & hardware ducks in order to accomplish it successfully. We bought a new iPad Pro last year when they first came out — it did not have rapid charging. It wasn’t until earlier this year (May 2016?) that Apple came out with a new 29W USB-C Power Adapter & a companion USB-C to Lightning Cable for the iPad Pro. Using the new 29W USB-C adapter & lightning cable with our iPad Pro yields VERY rapid & impressionable charging. I guess that Apple held off on offering this capability until THEY were happy with it -— with the result that MY family is also very happy with it. And our house has not gone up into flames so it was worth the wait until Apple had a superb & safe product to release.
It is faster, but it still doesn't do a super-fast charge like the Android approach where they can get a 60% charge in 15 minutes, then the next 40% in another hour or so. That's too much stress on any Lithium Ion battery. These batteries do swell a bit when the charge, especially when they get hot. Do that too many times and there will be internal changes.
Even with my new iPhone 7 plus, the first time I charged it, it got hotter than I felt comfortable with. After the latest iOS update, it doesn't any more and it charges faster than it did before. Something in the software update manages the charging better.
My iPad Pro (12.9") doesn't ever overheat on charging.
What exactly, pray tell, does your rude and apparently scatalogical post have to do with the topic of this thread or with the danger of an ANDROID phone?
My Son traded in his Note 7 last nite as he has a flight this morning.
I’ve been nursing a Note 3 in preparation for upgrade to a 7. Looks like I may buy a refurb Note 5.
Just ordered it.
With thid kind of danger, it seems the phone should be outlawed...the service providers should terminate service to the 7’s.
Yup.....may upgrade my iPhone 6 to a 7 soon. What’s all the hubbub, bub?
It’s hard for many of us to buy a product from a guy who is, in a very real way, corrupting our society. So you’ll get comments like that. His life style is not something that any parent wants for their kid. It’s probably a bigger factor in sales than they realize.
Big opportunity for phone makers.
I feel bad for Samsung and wow, they will pay. They rushed out a design that wasn’t fully tested. A good lesson for the others.
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