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To: kingu

ok, hmm, another possibility is that susan sandler and eryn sepp are just innocent liberal non-profit org mules.

otoh, the handkerchief is still an indicator of pedophilia.

the way it would work and fit together is:

podesta allegedly rents an empty home that is for sale in a remote area of martha’s vineyard for some kind of kinky event. he gets some friendly liberal non-profits to help foot the bill. the non-profits are not aware of the kinky nature of the event. podesta might even launder money or otherwise cover his tracks by paying off the other non-profits to help with the mundane mechanics of arranging the event (rental, catering, travel, other vanilla stuff, whatever).

to the outside world, the event is a fundraiser or an educational awareness conference, whatever.

to those in the know, it is a private kinky event in which all the mundane needs and wants have been taken care of by unknowing and unaware but still involved innocent third parties. the kinky event gets some cover from this, and maybe some PAC money gets laundered and some rewards are distributed to good workers who are in the know via invitations.

other attractions include special guests who are there to “entertain.” these could be so-called sex workers. or, they could even be underage teens. they could be local but more likely (martha’s vineyard being a very small and exclusive community in which many people know each other, eg james taylor, etc) they would be flown in for the party and flown back out the next morning, before they have a chance to meet with any of the locals and accidentally start some gossip by blabbing about the event. in addition, these entertainers don’t even know whose party it is, and who the party attendees are. they are paid well to entertain and otherwise keep their mouths shut. perhaps they are blindfolded so they don’t even know where they are when they arrive at the remote home. the less they know, the better. oh yes, this is their chosen lifestyle (even if they are underage and are not legally regarded as capable of making such decisions). they are recruited from various cities by professional recruiters who know exactly how to find such entertainers and who know exactly how to keep everything quiet. they are paid very well to keep everything very quiet. they are probably in every major city in the US.

the handkerchief is real. it is white, with a detailed map printed or perhaps even hand-painted in black on it. it has the word “pizza” on it, and/or a depiction of a pizza on it. but that is all. someone did leave it at the house.

the handkerchief is a fetish object that belonged to one of the event attendees. the meaning of “handkerchief,” “pizza,” “map,” and the significance of the colors white and black are known to the handkerchief owner, the person or persons that he or she got the handkerchief from, all of the attendees, podesta himself, and possibly even several of the event “entertainers.” the handkerchief is real and in itself is not illegal, but is the embodiment of coded references to pedophilia. IOW, it is an “in joke” to all the attendees, presuming they are pedophiles— it is the type of joke that seems to be in vogue with the pedophile community, hiding in plain sight and displaying their deviant nature in the open while innocent members of the public are none the wiser.

this type of thing reinforces the pedophiles’ notion that they are intellectually superior and more knowledgeable than the average public. it also bonds them to each other in a way such that they can recognize each other’s sexual deviancy relatively easily even if they have never met each other before, much like masonic symbols are used by masons, though with more sinister intent.

thus, people like susan sandler and eryn sepp would be left totally off the hook for any deliberate involvement by this idea, while podesta gets his giggles duping innocent political workers, launders political contributions and graft money, and rewards kinky co-workers and friends via the results of the arrangements.

the message is therefore a duality— both an indicator of innocence and an indicator of sexual deviancy if not illegal activity (depending on the ages of the “entertainers” whose existence would be so far only inferred, not proven).

this is just a thought which i just had, but offhand, it seems plausible. i would however prefer that it get kicked around before anyone gets excited. maybe others have had the same thought before that i am not aware of. maybe the thought has been discussed somewhere and even debunked somehow. i don’t know. i have zero experience with pedophiles and the pedophile community— my awareness is strictly limited to reading a few selected pizzagate discussions and watching a few selected pizzagate videos that arose earlier this month. so i am no expert. i am however trying to make some sense out of all of this. i am happy to admit that i feel very far from having all the answers. it is an unsatisfying situation for me to be in.

again, a special victims unit (SVU) could probably take this input with many of the other inputs and make a very informed and likely correct guess. however, no one has stepped forward from such a SVU to do so in public yet. This means that it is either premature to do so or that there is not YET enough info to indict, or that all the speculation is off track and there is no there there. But if it is the latter, why is there not a SVU expert willing to step forward and say that? The dogs are not barking...


105 posted on 11/27/2016 5:38:51 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH

A whole lot of connections that, well, misses one very important detail:

1) How does Susan Sandler know this handkerchief has a map on it to ‘pizza’ locations - the Realtor described it as being a black and white piece of cloth. Do you think she called the Realtor who then gave a detailed description of an object that has little value? Did she get the map information when she called the Realtor to arrange delivery of the pillows she purchased? If she did have that conversation, wouldn’t the message simply say ‘let me know if you want it’ as she’d tell the Realtor to include it with her pillows?

Again, far more likely that these are words inserted by someone fat fingering on a cell phone, forwarding a long string of conversation to see if someone lost a handkerchief.

If you’re going to quote occam’s razor, you really do have to apply it to the base question before you go off into making connections.


110 posted on 11/27/2016 5:52:03 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: SteveH

I think you are thinking along the right trail. My only experience is as a victim but it was not a “ring” — even non occult non political pedophiles LOVE TO SHARE info and more. And they LOVE to be out in the open with their secrets. Getting away with it seems to be part of the thrill. And victims will, mostly out of total inexperience with life, go along with the subterfuge just like Virginia explained (Epstein’s sex slave).


175 posted on 11/27/2016 11:58:02 PM PST by Yaelle
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