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I don’t belong in tech
medium.com ^ | 11/25/16 | Saron Yitbarek

Posted on 11/29/2016 5:32:51 AM PST by spintreebob

Edited on 11/29/2016 5:48:35 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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If we want to make American Tech Great Again we need to understand where this lady is coming from.
1 posted on 11/29/2016 5:32:51 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: HiTech RedNeck; SandwicheGuy; 2banana; Organic Panic; b4me; bigbob; RegulatorCountry; ...

Great article, IMO


2 posted on 11/29/2016 5:34:14 AM PST by spintreebob
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“When I use your product, I’m trusting you. “

That’s where you are messing up. You trust the product to work to YOUR standards rather than just accepting the product as is.

When I write a program, 50% of the code comes from me guessing what you want because you don’t know what you want.


3 posted on 11/29/2016 5:39:34 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: spintreebob

I found the article so wordy and emotional that I could barely read it.


4 posted on 11/29/2016 5:39:47 AM PST by marktwain
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There is software that demands perfection from the get-go. Aerospace, automobiles, certain military applications. We are also learning that true security now has to be built in the from the ground up.


6 posted on 11/29/2016 5:42:36 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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// I do not belong. My values are not valued. My thinking is strange and foreign. My world view has no place here. It is not that I am better, it is that I am different, and my difference feels incompatible with yours, dear tech. So I will mark my corner, a small plot of land and stand firmly here, trying to understand you and reconcile these conflicting differences. //

Substitute “women” for “tech” and that about sums up how I feel about interacting with modern women in this feminist-infested culture. Its why I’m going MGTOW and ultimately off the grid.


7 posted on 11/29/2016 5:42:57 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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“I am not solution-oriented. I don’t see a problem and get giddy at the idea of solving it, patching it up and sending it on its merry way.”

Then you’re not an engineer, so stop pretending to be one.
Go be what you are. Go manage engineers, or design user experiences, or paint or whatever fulfills you.
But realize that the core of tech is solving problems and building things.
Don’t be what you’re not.


8 posted on 11/29/2016 5:43:44 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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Maybe we need a government program to teach software people how to feel better about their code.

I have no clue what the bottom line was in this article- She's apparently a girl, so can't understand how men think. I think that's the gist of it.

And apparently this sudden flash of the obvious did not lend her to a greater thinking or understanding of gender roles and why men were the hunters and why women took care of the family ang ate bon bons while watching :the view” (just kidding about those last to DO NOT spam me!Pleeeeeeeeeeease)

I love writing software. I DO get giddy when they call me to fix a problem- I am ecstatic when I solve it and prous when they look upon me as the great code warrior who hunts down bugs and seves them up for lunch.

9 posted on 11/29/2016 5:45:39 AM PST by Mr. K
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“When I write a program, 50% of the code comes from me guessing what you want because you don’t know what you want.”

This. Oh so this.

It’s not “the customer is always right”, it’s “the customer has precious little idea what he wants and we have to build something that will make him think it’s right”.


10 posted on 11/29/2016 5:47:10 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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She should be a counselor or therapist.

I fail to see your point about the need to address people like her to “Make American Tech Great Again.”


11 posted on 11/29/2016 5:48:06 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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Developers solve problems. It is the problem-solving, not the problem-understanding, that gets you high.


Maybe this is why I was such a good COBOL programmer. At every company I was employed or contracted, I became the go-to guy to re-write bad programs. It is because, for me, the first step in solving a problem (which I love doing) is understanding the problem. Only then can you permanently fix it. Anything else is simply applying a bandaid.


12 posted on 11/29/2016 5:48:47 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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“...so wordy and emotional that I could barely read it...”

Same reaction here. It was too much - I have noticed this is the way most bloggers write: they are so certain of their own specialness and full of themselves that every sentence/word is polluted with ego.

This is why I tend to not read blogs - self important and overwritten is inherent to the genre. It reminds me of a bad actor mugging on stage.


13 posted on 11/29/2016 5:49:05 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: spintreebob

TLDR


14 posted on 11/29/2016 5:50:07 AM PST by Spruce
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Usually, they assume you know what they want.

“This report is wrong. I didn’t want accounts that are late over 1 year”.
“I pushed this button and expected it to call the bank”.

These are people that blame the cable company when they push the wrong button on the remote.


15 posted on 11/29/2016 5:52:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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Having hired hundreds of programmers over the years and outsourced as well.....

I’ve found that Asian programmers lack imagination and are generally sloppy in their code......However, they are quick and cheap.....

The best way for the US to stay competitive, is through fostering computer skills at a very young age....

My youngest daughter has been programming since she was 7 years old and now 10, is entering a robotics competition this December....

Without a strong basis in maths and hard sciences, our kids won’t be able to compete.....


16 posted on 11/29/2016 5:53:07 AM PST by nevergore
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If we want to make American tech great again, we need to teach engineers how to compose valid requirements. The industry is rife with people trying to solve all problems at once, rather than finding elegant solutions to problems that matter to their customers.

Consider that the icon-driven GUIs of today are hampering “power users” who balance use of the GUI with keyboard shortcuts.


17 posted on 11/29/2016 5:54:37 AM PST by MortMan (A just nation applies it laws faithfully.)
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She is not the first to feel this way.

She should read Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance.

These feelings are as old as Western civilization.


18 posted on 11/29/2016 5:54:40 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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This is why Analysts write the spec and Coders write the code. Between the two of you, you double the chances of getting it right


19 posted on 11/29/2016 5:55:56 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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When I write a program, 50% of the code comes from me guessing what you want because you don’t know what you want.


After 21 years as a COBOL programmer, I became a Business Analyst. My job is to make sure that doesn’t happen. Having been a developer, I’m pretty successful at it. It’s amazing, though, how difficult it is to get the business to qualify what they actually want. But that’s why we “get the big bucks”.


20 posted on 11/29/2016 5:55:58 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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