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To: workerbee

Probably something that NEEDS to be said. President Elect Trump can;t be making deals to save 1,000 jobs like Carrier every day of the week. He needs to CREATE a safe and healthy climate for businesses, and let them come back, and not arm twist and broker sweet deals. THAT is what I think is termed crony capitalism. I think he will do just fine, but the point is well made.


8 posted on 12/08/2016 6:14:01 AM PST by rovenstinez (A)
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To: rovenstinez

The tone of Trump’s approach tells me that he fully intends to make generic what he has made specific in a few cases. A lot of respectable politicians including Sarah Palin have also worried out loud about crony capitalism. I don’t think this is where Trump is headed in this case.


11 posted on 12/08/2016 6:16:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rovenstinez

Well, he’s not even president. Trump cannot be shepherding tax reform for business through Congress — not this week, anyway: He’s busy not being President.

I think Trump is saying that jobs stay in America if the government backs off on taxes and eases regulations. Carrier is a case in point. Now, the point being made, in a few months, Trump will actually be president and can make a big move to create a safe and healthy climate for businesses.


15 posted on 12/08/2016 6:18:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: rovenstinez
resident Elect Trump can;t be making deals to save 1,000 jobs like Carrier every day of the week.

But he can set an example to everyone for how you can negotiate yourself out of unreasonable positions and empower folks to do it and kick their asses out of D.C. when they don't.

21 posted on 12/08/2016 6:23:35 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: rovenstinez

“Probably something that NEEDS to be said”

I agree. Hopefully, this is “off to a good start” PR that will be left to others in his administration.


36 posted on 12/08/2016 6:34:01 AM PST by yetidog
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To: rovenstinez
THAT is what I think is termed crony capitalism

No, that is the just emotion laden term Never Trumper throw around with NO understanding of what it actually means. Curious if any of “Movement Conservative” can comprehend the difference between cutting someone future taxes (i.e. Carrier) and taking money out of the Federal Treasury to make grants and loads to a crony (i.e. GM, Fisker or Solyndra)? It is utterly amusing to watch supposed “Libertarians” and self styled “True Conservatives” busy mouthing the Marxist economic dogma that all economic output is property of the State and any time the state takes less it is a “Government subsidy”. That is the base for this absurd “crony capitalism” argument. This dogma that any reduction in government taxation MUST be “paid for” by increased taxation on others is utterly absurd nonsense completely at odds with our system of Government. Under the US Constitution (and the John Lock theory of the “Consent of the Governed” ) Taxes are the gift of the people to the Government. Government has no right to the income unless the people grant it. Amazing how self proclaimed “Constitutionals”, quickly discard ALL fact and reason to find some childishly petulant reason to whine about Trump daily.

40 posted on 12/08/2016 6:37:05 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("need to buck up and endure just as much winning as we possibly can." -BeauBo)
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To: rovenstinez

“THAT is what I think is termed crony capitalism. I think he will do just fine, but the point is well made.”
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Your “thinking” is dead wrong, both on cronyism and what the POTUS does!

“Jawboning” has a strong precedent as a POTUS’s weapon in creating policy or changing minds. Its one of very few thing a POTUS can do, constitutionally.. FDR, Truman, JFK were all known for using the technique to successfully change corporate thinking or national policy.

Take your NeverTrump trolling elsewhere!


44 posted on 12/08/2016 6:43:07 AM PST by EarlT357
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To: rovenstinez
but the point is well made.

What sweetheart deal did he make? The State had offered the same sort of incentives for them to stay that States have been making for 100 years. Donald could not give them anything nor did he other than to tell them what he planned for all businesses.

Why do we let the haters define us?

59 posted on 12/08/2016 7:25:04 AM PST by itsahoot (Three words I don't want to hear, Comprehensive Immigration Reform.)
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To: rovenstinez

What sweet deal did Trump offer Carrier? I’ve asked this question many times without a reply.


64 posted on 12/08/2016 7:41:15 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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