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Teacher, 70, Forced to Retire After Displaying Confederate Flag During Civil War Lesson
Heatst.com ^ | January 28, 2017 | By Ian Miles Cheong

Posted on 01/29/2017 8:17:54 PM PST by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA

That’s right, keep the kids ignorant under the lie of protecting them.
. Who knows what could have happened next — maybe young neo-confederates running down the halls doing the rebel yell.

I teach an evening adult education class and we use classrooms at a local high school. My class meets in what is a social stickers classroom during the. It is decorated with all kinds of historical and cultural items, including a hammer-and-sickle flag. I could assume from that that the teacher is a communist, but I won’t.

When I was in middle school, my class had to break up into groups and make a skit on a historical event. My group chose the assassination of McKinley. I portrayed Roosevelt. We assassinated McKinley, excuted Leon Czolgosz, and I got sworn in at the end. These days we would probably be suspended and the teacher disciplined for allowing it. But here it is, nearly fifty years later, and I remember it because it was a vivid learning experience.


41 posted on 01/29/2017 9:01:39 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: HalfIrish

LOL!

I posted the best rant ever, a little further down.


42 posted on 01/29/2017 9:02:00 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: thulldud

;-)


43 posted on 01/29/2017 9:04:26 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: TigerClaws

I don’t know your batting PCT, but that post hits the spot better than any ever put to paper on the lefts ultimate goal.


44 posted on 01/29/2017 9:05:51 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: struggle
Honestly, this is just the school district’s excuse to get him off double paid retirement and salary and replace him with a cheap college grad.

Exactly. So the system loses what is probably a very fine teacher, to be replaced by a cheap and clueless newbie.

45 posted on 01/29/2017 9:09:37 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: BradyLS

The Stars and Bars isn’t the same as the Confederate battle flag. The Stars and Bars was the CSA’s first national flag and it resembled the Stars and Stripes to such a degree that it caused confusion. Later versions of the Confederacy’s national flag had the battle flag in the canton.

The battle flag itself was square. The Confederate Navy Jack is what most people imagine to be the Confederacy’s national flag.


46 posted on 01/29/2017 9:09:56 PM PST by Pelham (liberate Occupied California)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Social *studies


47 posted on 01/29/2017 9:09:57 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: 11th_VA
time for a divorce with the blue states

I'd rather deport them to a socialist utopia of their choice.

48 posted on 01/29/2017 9:22:48 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: mumblypeg

Um, as a public school teacher, I’ve seen it happen countless times. Anyone over 60 is suspect in cases like this. Usually the 60 year old costs $90K minimum while a college grad with a BA costs $40K MAX. All about money.


49 posted on 01/29/2017 9:23:03 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: mumblypeg
The underlying agenda here is to erase history and to disallow any education at all. The end goal is enforced illiteracy...

That is precisely the goal of the embedded socialist left in academia, who are themselves products of the same degrading system of indoctrination.

They mean to eradicate true Americans, and create a new society of 'global citizens'. Along the way, they fully intend to abolish America.

Speaking of literacy, the level of simple English composition around this place has gone straight to hell.

50 posted on 01/29/2017 9:40:22 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: 11th_VA

it seems to me the teacher should have a pretty good lawsuit on her hands if she decides to- they ruined her career and income to support herself for simply teaching history? Sounds like extremism discrimination to me-


51 posted on 01/29/2017 9:43:04 PM PST by Bob434
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To: 11th_VA

It was probably the first time these students ever heard of the Civil War.


52 posted on 01/29/2017 9:46:26 PM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: manc

There are many of us retired military types in the North East fighting tooth and nail, with little outside help, to take our towns and states back. You’d really abandon us that quickly?


53 posted on 01/29/2017 9:49:30 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Vermont, or Texas?


54 posted on 01/29/2017 9:51:25 PM PST by Flaming Conservative
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To: lacrew

I remember playing it in high school we played a version of the game where every one was given a name on a piece of paper that person was your target. the only way you could get the kill was if no one saw you do it. if there was a witness then that person would get your piece of paper with the name. the winner was the person who had the most slips of paper at the end of the week.. we played it serval times till the teachers found out about it and ended it at one point we had over one hundred players


55 posted on 01/29/2017 9:54:35 PM PST by PCPOET7 (in)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Iowa.


56 posted on 01/29/2017 9:55:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Your answer to your Jewish friend (and I am Jewish) could have been, “Look, it was better that we, the Allies, captured this Nazi flag and defeated them, then to have them keep it and fly it over our country”.

Sometimes you just have to logically bitchslap the kneejerkers with reality.


57 posted on 01/29/2017 9:59:01 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 11th_VA
creates an unsafe environment for students

The school administration because it adheres strictly to political correctness must find a way out of several dilemmas.

First it had the evident inconsistency in defending teacher tenure because tenure is necessary for teachers to operate with freedom of conscience against the requirement of political correctness to censor a teacher's decision to display a disfavored historic symbol.

Second, the administration has to defend the policy which inculcates a view of history to the exclusion of other potential views of history while evading the charge that they are censoring history, thus corrupting the very essence of education.

Third, the administration must defend the principle that it is the administration which decides these issues, not the parents, not the teachers, not the courts, not the state legislature.

How does it solve all of these thorny problems in a stroke? It changes the subject from censorship to child protection. We are not talking here about a political/historical point of view, we are talking about potential risk to the physical safety of children-or so the administration would have you believe.

Unfortunately, the administration would have you believe that on no evidence or at best the flimsiest of evidence and evidence even when only flimsy evidence is more problem producing than the alleged threat itself.

What evidence does the administration adduce in support of the conclusion that displaying the Confederate battle flag, "creates an unsafe environment for students?" No evidence at all really except that the administration does preference that assertion with the finding that “We recognize that regardless of context, to many of our students, families, and staff, the Confederate flag is a racist symbol of hate”.

So the administration is not saying that the flag itself has intrinsic power to endanger children, rather the subjective reaction of "many" of "our students families and staff" might be such as to endanger children. This justification has no doubt been made in consultation with the school administration's lawyers who are aware that the courts have held that censorship of speech (T-shirts, for example) in schools is to be broadly permitted on a child safety basis.

Here we see the enshrinement of subjectivism over the First Amendment. Here government censors speech based on the presumed reaction of unnamed individuals. This is a tendency which the left has been emphasizing for some time now, the undermining of the First Amendment by resort to subjective feelings of others, especially favored classes such as African Americans.

Our posters have instinctively seen this and they say that other symbols, dear to the left if despised by the right, would probably be permitted to adorn the classroom walls of this institution. Political correctness triumphs over the Constitution, over the independent judgment of a teacher, perhaps over the desires of a majority of the parents and, without reference to law or courts, the state agency engages in prior censorship, before the school children have a chance to see the flag.

All we have to do to get around the Bill of Rights is change the label.


58 posted on 01/29/2017 10:07:11 PM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: struggle

On second look, I see the teacher in question is 70. She could have retired by now. Hope her pension isn’t affected.


59 posted on 01/29/2017 10:16:24 PM PST by mumblypeg (Make America Macho Again.)
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To: 11th_VA

“Although this matter is under investigation, it is important to reiterate: Any employee who is found to engage in behavior that creates an unsafe environment for students will face full consequences, including the possibility of initiating termination proceedings.”


Make someone feel unsafe and we’ll destroy your life.


60 posted on 01/29/2017 10:33:45 PM PST by Flick Lives
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