Posted on 04/24/2017 7:52:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
That lead photo EXACTLY shows the problem: the prior “shutdown” was a costly _absconding_ to wit _theft_ (maybe someone can find me a better phrase). The monuments, parks, etc are _PUBLIC_ property - yet the administration spent taxpayer money to actively (and sometimes violently) drive taxpayers out of PUBLIC property. Locking an office door at the end of the day is a normal action; dragging out expensive fencing, and paying police to repel people, to keep the public out of public property is NOT normal and is tantamount to theft.
Trump can make the shutdown as “painless as possible” by locking up as they _normally_ would at the end of any day, or against any reasonable expectation of theft, and otherwise leave open-to-the-public properties open to the public. As such, the Left may discover that the populace at large actually LIKES using “public property” without harassment, and insofar as it may need caring for may actually do so voluntarily (cutting grass at monuments, enforcing polite order in campgrounds, etc).
Oh, BTW: any “shutdown” furloughs should absolutely not involve a wink-and-nod “you’ll get back pay upon return.” The whole point is that the money isn’t there.
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Deregulated is the word.
Let it ring!
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“Wait a minute! Did he did or did he not quit?”
And since 90% of them are RATs anyway, they will immediately start bitching and moaning to their RAT “legislators” which will put pressure on them to cave and give Trump the budget he is requesting.
“I am kinda expecting a shutdown most of his voters would love it, it cements his power and he gets the border wall in the media more.”
Well Ronald Reagan made it work with the Air Traffic Controllers. Maybe this is one way to bust public employee unions.
“government does not own the national parks... the people do... so if the government cannot man the booths to collect money from visitors, then it is free... the government cannot keep people out, just because they are not there.”
Yes, just cut the locks off the gates and drive or wall right in.
Trump should order the Army Corp Of Engineers to build that wall.
It would be one heck of a solid wall.
I love the idea of Congress having to override Pocket Vetoes (in which he takes the longest time possible and it defaults to not being timely signed).
There should be enough conservatives in the House to complicate that override.
The less visible a government shutdown is, the more people will ask “why are we spending so much on it in the first place”?
In any situation, a good general rule is that Trump should do the opposite of what Obama did.
My personal pet peeve .... and I hate to even write it .... is “bombshell” and being in all caps makes it worse. If I see that on a thread title, I generally don’t even read it.
Agree, no back pay this time around, tell the federal labor unions the party is over, you no work, you no get paid. Require essential personnel to report to work and if possible pay them. Pay interest payments, military personnel and social security checks. Keep the rest closed and see how much the people really miss government.
Obama and clinton made shutdowns try to hurt the people, Trump can show that hey you are paying for a bunch of crap you really don’t need.
Yes, but it would take them 10 years to build it
Ah, yes I have seen how they build things.
It would probably have ten times the amount of steel reinforcement that a private bidder design would have for one thing.
I was thinking more about the Engineers Corps starting it then, push to have the construction privatized later.
Maybe I’m just too idealistic but, this would take it off the infustructure money fight for now and would place it in the defense budget money fight.(same diff, but different political fight?)
Just a thought.
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