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Idea: If Democrats Shut Down the Government, Should Trump Make It As Painless As Possible?
Townhall.com ^ | April 24, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 04/24/2017 7:52:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: House Atreides

That is absolutely correct, of course. I wasn’t as clear as I meant to be.

It’s like you were reading my FReeperBrain while I posted!

:)


21 posted on 04/24/2017 8:22:15 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: Kaslin

It won’t be the Democrats, it’ll be the GOPe, never Trumpers, who turn up their noses at the American people.

The same jackwagons that gave Barry Everything he wanted , and more.


22 posted on 04/24/2017 8:23:37 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: Robert357

That would be great... the government (as it is) is TOOOOOO wasteful.

There is a tremendous amount of mismanagement, duplication of effort, lack of accountability.... etc.

Time for a hair cut


23 posted on 04/24/2017 8:24:21 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: Kaslin

If this happens. I hope he turns the management of all federal managed lands over to the states. That is-the USFS. Park Service, BLM and National Monuments.

The only area he can NOT turn back to the states is in DC.


24 posted on 04/24/2017 8:27:18 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

He should turn it over to the states.


25 posted on 04/24/2017 8:29:47 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: JBW1949
“How much effect has the partial federal shutdown had on your everyday life?”

Most low information voters probably didn’t even know there WAS a shutdown...*LOL*

Good point - that should have been the first question in the survey, and if the answer was "didn't know" then the answer to "how much effect" would have been a given.

26 posted on 04/24/2017 8:29:54 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Kaslin

Shut down the damn government and clean house once and for all. This country would get by very nicely with 1/2 of the current work force.


27 posted on 04/24/2017 8:30:11 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: Kaslin

What would be ideal is to somehow rid ourselves of the public employee union under this. Until we can get that destroyed the american people are at a huge disadvantage.
One can dream.


28 posted on 04/24/2017 8:31:48 AM PDT by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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To: Kaslin; LS

FR’s LS has another way of looking at a government shutdown. Thanks LS..

Trump Wins YUGE in a Government Shutdown
American Spectator ^ | April 24, 2017, 12:04 am | LARRY SCHWEIKART
Posted on 4/23/2017, 11:51:36 PM by Behind Liberal Lines

We’re looking at a possible government shutdown next Saturday, and that’s got some conservatives nervous. They shouldn’t be. Admittedly, past government shutdowns — or threats of shutdowns — have worked against conservatives. With Trump, however, it would likely be a different story....

even a partial shutdown plays precisely into the Trump agenda and his campaign promises of draining the swamp. Trump’s base, as well as “swing voters” who are fed up with out of control spending, would, of course, be cheered by such a move. Moreover, such a shutdown plays into Trump’s hands by giving him every excuse to slash funding to “sanctuary cities,” to bloated university programs, to global warming science grants, and on and on. Social Security checks will continue, the military will be funded, and necessary services will hum along while grants to study the sex life of the fruit bat will not. Deep State bureaucrats who so depend on the federal government for their very existence would be the ones most hurt. In short, Trump can not only make even a partial shutdown look like the Democrats’ fault but shield many of the (normally) loudest voices from the pain.

More important, every minute the bloated government is shut down reinforces the perception of Trump as a businessman who cuts the fat, extracts more efficiency, and makes the U.S. government more like a business. Unlike the Clinton/Gingrich shutdown battle, the control over what sectors of the government get their money is in the hands of a Republican president, not a Democrat who held up funds on the most visible and sympathetic programs. Trump would relish starving all the non-essential offices like PBS and NPR or global-warming science grants.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3546739/posts


29 posted on 04/24/2017 8:32:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Don't bother with fake news about Trump on MMS/FAUX. FR has Trump's Tweets and his real news daily!)
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To: Kaslin

This is the lunacy we have faced, breathing the same air with `rats:
http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/01/17/days-before-trump-takes-office-obama-gives-500-million-to-un-green-climate-fund/
“Days before Trump takes office, Obama gives another $500 million to UN Green Climate Fund”

Maximum Leader Barry writes a couple checks on the US Treasury giving the UN a cool billion to fight a non-existent problem somewhere else: global warming in 3rd world countries. (All the while spending money hand-over-fist importing 3rd worlders into America as fast as he could.)

President Trump has to fight like a tiger for the same amount in order to do his job and secure the states from foreign invasion, while his party sits by with their thumbs up their butts.


30 posted on 04/24/2017 8:33:45 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Kaslin
The last shutdown had the Alaska crab fishing boats stuck at the docks, waiting for the paper pushers to issue the proper permits. This shutdown should, therefore, include a provision that anything the federal government regulates, that isn't classified as essential, is hereby unregulated while the government is shut down.
31 posted on 04/24/2017 8:41:59 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Kaslin

Absolutely as painless as possible. Make the govt seem absolutely unnecessary.


32 posted on 04/24/2017 8:56:36 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Kaslin

government does not own the national parks... the people do... so if the government cannot man the booths to collect money from visitors, then it is free... the government cannot keep people out, just because they are not there.


33 posted on 04/24/2017 8:58:51 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The filibuster should be eliminated. If republicans don’t do it now, democrats will surely eliminate it once they return to Senate majority. Comity has ended, it is now only about majority rule. Let’s get it done.

Keep the filibuster

BUT

No more of this gentlemanly "I announce a filibuster" BS. McConnell ought to make them actually filibuster like James Stewart did in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington".

...and shut off the water

...and lock the bathroom doors.

34 posted on 04/24/2017 9:14:14 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: Kaslin

Thats what I said.

But, he cant turn anything within the bounds of the District of Columbia over because that is within the ten mile square area mentioned in the constitution.


35 posted on 04/24/2017 9:16:44 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Yeah, you did, and I agreed with you sts.


36 posted on 04/24/2017 9:24:46 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: NobleFree

The Republicans are always blamed for the government shutdown. When in fact it is the demonrats who shut the government down. This is factual


37 posted on 04/24/2017 9:28:11 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Qiviut

Arrgh, I can’t stand that stupid word “YUGE” it should be banned


38 posted on 04/24/2017 9:32:18 AM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Dana1960

"Gov’t employees who are laid off as a result of a gov’t shutdown can file for unemployment checks. Just as employees of private employers do. There should be NO back pay in full for laid off federal employees."
Exactly, take their money and never give it back. Include Congressmen and Senators, cut all medical benefits, no one ever paid my bills when I was on the street because of a labor dispute. Fire the non-essential, great time to reduce the amount of federal workers.
39 posted on 04/24/2017 9:38:43 AM PDT by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Dilbert56

Seem rather like the Stamp Act, when people couldn’t get married or anything else because they couldn’t get an official stamp.

Worked out real well for them that time, of course, but we are more timid these days, what with the NDAA and all. Your solution is the rational and arguably most precedented one.

“the mayor would have led the gang, but Boston weren’t a city”
(great song, btw)


40 posted on 04/24/2017 9:52:02 AM PDT by Apogee
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