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Dear Rep. Sheila Butt: Elizabeth Thomas Wasn't 'Lost,' She Was Stolen
nashvillescene.com/ ^ | April 24, 2017 | Betsy Phillips

Posted on 04/25/2017 8:23:34 AM PDT by Morgana

The state representative offers an example of how crappy we are to victims

Sometimes feminists use the term “rape culture” to try to distill down the way our society seems set up to give rapists as easy a time as possible, while making things as shitty as possible on victims, especially if one feels compelled to publicly accuse someone of rape.

We got to see that dynamic play out in last week’s council meeting when they praised a man accused of sexual misconduct and called his alleged victims liars, which, God, if there’s a more shameful moment in our city this year, I hope I’m unconscious and can’t witness it.

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To: Bigg Red

Yeah. I see your point.

I look back to when I was 15. I was an idiot, but suffered consequences for my actions precisely because I was mature enough to do so.


21 posted on 04/25/2017 9:09:06 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: MeganC

She was complicit, but not legally. Legally she has no standing to make that decision for herself, and so the teacher is going to jail for a long time, as he should.

But I do get your meaning. He didn’t duct tape her into the trunk of his car, she went willingly, it’s just that we don’t allow this in our society, and he obviously knows that given how hard he tried to hide.


22 posted on 04/25/2017 9:10:48 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Skooz

Exactly. Most of us were idiots at 15 and did not always think things through the way we should have, but we were still capable of making choices between morality and immorality.

I am always baffled by the way so many are willing to cut so much slack to females of this age but not to males in their mid-teens.


23 posted on 04/25/2017 9:12:15 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Morgana

Someone needs to introduce this “writer” to a Thesaurus.


24 posted on 04/25/2017 9:12:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Bigg Red
Someone needs to introduce this “writer” to a Thesaurus.

I thought they were extinct.

25 posted on 04/25/2017 9:13:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MeganC
When I saw the picture of her and Cummins on the run at the Wal Mart she was looking up at him with affection and not fear.

Funny.

I looked at the same picture and saw fear.

26 posted on 04/25/2017 9:15:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Veto!

If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t this teacher have two grown daughters? Surely he knew how the mindset of a 15 year old could be.


27 posted on 04/25/2017 9:16:55 AM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: dfwgator
I knew the cousin best, Miss Buttahubba, knew her very well indeed.


28 posted on 04/25/2017 9:22:37 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Morgana

This is a media meme that she was kidnapped

She left with the guy cause she wanted to period

I live here in the general area

Go on any social media site where locals in Columbia are commenting

Family problems

The guy enticed her and she ran off with him

He’s in deep doo doo

He shoulda been happy with an 18 year old

He’ll do real prison running off with a 15 year old at 50 even if she wanted to

Now she’llgo back to the dysfunctional crap that he was able to lure her away from

It’s not s good outcome for her either way

I watched her dad last night complaining Cummings took her away from basically quality time with her family.....deprived was his exact word

I’m like really ....

If I was her daddy I’d be in pieces worrying to death she’s run off boinking a 50 year old freak

Some things a man just doesn’t do with young girls and Cummins has and he’ll pay

Her consent won’t matter there legally but he did not force her


29 posted on 04/25/2017 9:24:46 AM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: dfwgator

:)


30 posted on 04/25/2017 9:25:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: wardaddy

My guess is if the state charges don’t get him put away then the Federal charges will.. rightly so.


31 posted on 04/25/2017 9:28:01 AM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: Skooz; BiggRedd

She bears responsibility morally

If my 16 year old was caught banging a 40 year old married suburban Louis Vuitton toting soccer mom I sure as hell would not give him a moral pass

No sireee

Once again Cummins did not force this girl to leave with him

I live here

I know plenty folks in Maury county

It’s just how it is

He’s in trouble though....he’ll never be convicted of kidnapping

But the ex stuff carries 10 federal with no parole


32 posted on 04/25/2017 9:28:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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To: MeganC

BS. - I am in the TN county where Cummins will be tried; and
am about due to come up for another round of jury duty
about the time he will stand for trial.

In the eyes of the law; a person is INNOCENT unless and
until PROVEN guilty in a court of law.

(You do not know “fear” or “affection” or any other emotion
by looking at a photo of a momentary expression on a
person’s face.)

Cummins is; however, in deep doo-doo.


33 posted on 04/25/2017 9:33:24 AM PDT by Twinkie ( MSM and DEMOCRAT PARTY are DEAD)
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To: wardaddy

If he did not kidnap, say at gunpoint or forcibly, what would it be called or considered if he may have “lured” her to go with him with promises of travel, adventure, etc?


34 posted on 04/25/2017 9:36:38 AM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: MeganC

She was, and is, below the age of consent. The perp was non-custodial. Legally speaking, it doesn’t matter a damn what she thought or wanted.


35 posted on 04/25/2017 9:41:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla

Will he be tried on Fed charges first?


36 posted on 04/25/2017 9:42:59 AM PDT by pnz1 (#IMNOTWITHHER)
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To: pnz1

You’re right. Even if the student came into his office and did a striptease, he had to say NO on no uncertain terms.


37 posted on 04/25/2017 9:43:58 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Artemis Webb

Well said.


38 posted on 04/25/2017 9:47:47 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: mewzilla; MrEdd

“Legally speaking, it doesn’t matter a damn what she thought or wanted.”

I never made a legal argument. Just said I wondered if she was complicit.

Looking at the responses in this topic I am not alone in that contemplation. And I don’t see anyone else saying that it would make an excuse for the criminal. We’re just trying to understand what happened.


39 posted on 04/25/2017 9:49:10 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: pnz1

I haven’t seen anything about the Feds filing. They might not want to expend the resources if the state will do a good job nailing the perp’s a$$.


40 posted on 04/25/2017 9:50:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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