Near Bedrock.
Over the past twenty years....there’s been dozens of bits and pieces to suggest humans in the Americas way past 13,000 years ago. The establishment has fought them tooth and nail. This group here? They’ve spent twenty years going over one single site and the evidence at that site. It’s air-tight.
Lets see, 130,000 years ago, who was on the prowl?
Ancient hominids who were intrinsic to the Americas?
This pre Clovis possibility has the leftist politico-pseudoscientists’ panties all in a twist.The 1st people in America MUST only be those politically defined at present!
Pre-Clovis people are evident. Their spoor was found at other sites: Pennsylvania’s Meadowcroft Rockshelter and Chile’s Monte Verde.
Soon we will find more of their bones. Meanwhile the political fires, charges and counter charges of racist science continue:
http://conservative-headlines.com/2012/02/racial-differences-in-skull-shapes/
De whi’ man wuz here furs ? Heaven forbid.
Anyone who watches the Flintstones knows that humans and Mastodons coexisted hundreds of thousands of years ago. I don’t know why it’s taken so long for the ‘experts’ to figure the same thing out. Maybe they’re just trying to milk funding as long as possible?
Like big foot......show me the remains. Human remains are sparse in the Americas.
Hooray.....More Grant Money on the way!!!
But, but - where are all the posts fundamentalist Christians? And our LDS brothers and sisters? Guess they’re all cross-checking Ringo Starr’s comments in the 1981 movie Caveman.
(OK everybody, lighten up - I’m a Senior ICPC Law Enforcement Chaplain)
It has always puzzled me why there are so many of the crude biface tools around when the indigenous people of the time had the skills for making better products. Well, finally the theory is emerging that the cruder tools came from earlier times when tool making skills were not so well developed. This thinking was not allowed when the PC timeframe was that there were no humans here more than 14,000 years ago. It's time to discard that thinking.
“130,000-year-old bones and teeth of a mastodon”
That was a really old mastodon. Bet it was tough.
If you believe the alternative history researchers and writers, there were a lot of discoveries made on the west coast in the early 20th century that were too at odds with the prevailing theories of when and by whom this continent was peopled. According to them this information was either destroyed and secreted away to the bowels of the Smithsonian.
Interesting post on its own. But also for the implication: The science is never settled. And. Odds are in favor of another find to come, if you assume it unlikely that this is the very oldest site where man set up a slaughterhouse. Perhaps much earlier and much farther north. Or south. Or west.
I’d like to see a computer model accurately predict where to find another site 10,000 years older. Or you know, a prediction of the climate 100 years from now.
Possibly neanderthals and not later groups of “homo sapiens” arriving from Asia as the last ice age was ebbing.
Obviously, it was Aliens.
I’m inclined to take this with a grain of salt. So far they have some bones from 130,000 years ago which were broken in a certain way, which they say could only have been done by humans...but if there were a bunch of featherless bipeds running around North America at that time, surely more direct evidence will turn up...like bones with their DNA in it.
I don’t find this argument convincing. Carbon dating only goes back around 45,000 years so thats out of the question. Even if this alternative dating works its working on animal remains, not human remains. Also everywhere humans went they wrought massive changes on the environment, especially on the megafauna.
Also, wherever photo-humans such as homo erectus went first most of the mega fauna adapted enough to hunting pressure to survive the later arrival of homo sapien. So elephants and lions and tigers and rhinos survived in India because homo erectus got there first. But sewing wasn’t invented until homo sapien so photo humans never went far north. So when homo sapien hits northern eurasia the mega fauna was devastated just like when homo sapiens hit the western hemisphere and Australia.
If proto humans really came to America they would have produced the same changes they produced elsewhere, yet that did not happen.
The Ice People
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ice_People_(Barjavel_novel)
When a French expedition in Antarctica reveals the ruins of a 900,000 years old civilization, scientists from all over the world flock to the site to help explore and understand. The entire planet watches via global satellite television, mesmerized, as the explorers uncover a chamber in which a man and a woman have been in suspended animation since, as the French title suggests, “the night of time”. The woman, Éléa, is awakened, and through a translating machine she tells the story of her world, herself and her man Païkan, and how war destroyed her civilization.
She also hints at an incredibly advanced knowledge that her still-dormant companion possesses (who is not her love Païkan, but the scientist Coban, whom she hates), knowledge that could give energy and food to all humans at no cost. But the superpowers of the world are not ready to let Éléa’s secrets spread, and show that, 900,000 years and an apocalypse later, mankind has not grown up and is ready to make the same mistakes again.
“Ils sont là ! Ils sont nous ! Ils ont repeuplé le monde, et ils sont aussi cons qu’avant, et prêts à faire de nouveau sauter la baraque. C’est pas beau, ça ? C’est l’homme !”
“They’re here! They’re us! They repopulated the world, and they’re just as dumb as before, and ready to blow up the house again. Isn’t it great? It’s man.”
Where did all the ice go from that ice age in the san diego area?
Oh, that's right, the mastodon farts caused global warming.
They would have had plenty of time to get to the US prior to the last glaciation.