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Despite’s Mosby opposition to secession, he nevertheless enlisted in the Confederate Army in 1861 out of loyalty to friends and family in his home of Virginia.

Too bad the modern day erasers of history don't bother studying this.

1 posted on 05/01/2017 7:54:06 AM PDT by C19fan
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“Both North and South
they knew our name.

The Gray Ghost is what they called me.
John Mosby is my name.”


2 posted on 05/01/2017 8:01:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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Robert E. Lee’s motives were similar.


3 posted on 05/01/2017 8:02:24 AM PDT by yetidog
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Interesting read. Mosby caused all sorts of head aches for the Union in the Shenandoah during the war.


4 posted on 05/01/2017 8:03:37 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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I know some of his descendants. Great family.


6 posted on 05/01/2017 8:04:03 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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As a youngun I used to search for Mosby’s cave.


7 posted on 05/01/2017 8:07:40 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (just a conspiracy theory, no facts behind the above post.)
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“People must be judged by the standard of their own age.”

That admonition should be taken to heart by all the people on both sides of the argument on any of the FR Civil War threads.

8 posted on 05/01/2017 8:11:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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“Despite’s Mosby opposition to secession, he nevertheless enlisted in the Confederate Army in 1861 out of loyalty to friends and family in his home of Virginia.”

That sentiment was shared by Robert E. Lee and basically by the 92% of the total number of Southerners who did not own slaves. But Lincoln sent an invading army into their homeland; they did not have much choice at the time.


9 posted on 05/01/2017 8:11:10 AM PDT by odawg
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The American Civil War, like all wars, was complicated. So were the men who fought it. But it’s not so complicated that we can’t see it for what it was—a war over slavery. We dishonor the memory of all who died if we lie about what the Confederacy was or about the evils of slavery. The best way to honor the past is to learn from it.

Concluding paragraph.

This is true, but not so in the sense in which the author intends it.

To be very particular, the war was about who was going to make the decision to end slavery and when: the southern States where slavery was practiced; or, the national government of the United States.

I don't believe slavery would have existed much longer: Brazil abolished slavery in 1888. The Europeans would have discovered that cotton could be grown more cheaply in India and elsewhere and the market for slave produced agricultural products would have inevitably declined, and the moral and political pressure in the South to end the practice would have become overwhelming.

10 posted on 05/01/2017 8:11:15 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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I moved to Georgia from Chicago around 7 years ago. I repeatedly ask my staff, who are born and raised in the South, to tell me what the know about the civil war. Here are some of the responses, (I swear to God.)

Tell me who these people are

1. Robert E. Lee

“I think he was one of the soldiers in the civil. Don’t know which side he faught on.”

2. Who was the General at the end of the war for the North?

“Not one person knew.”

3. What Union General burned down Atlanta?

“Not one person knew. One person said, Lee.”


12 posted on 05/01/2017 8:18:10 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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The lost cause has been lost in many respects.

Respecting the immediate subject, Mosby and Mosby's Confederacy, that has been lost for some time now. The geographical area extends in northern Virginia from the suburbs of Washington DC to the Blue Ridge Mountains and into the Shenandoah Valley. It's central location was roughly Middleburg the spiritual center of what has become known as the Virginia horse country.

The geographical area has been lost in the sense that it has now voted in several cycles for Democrats. I've often posted that the Republican Party is in deep trouble when it cannot carry Mosby's Confederacy. But the Democrats alas are not the only threat to the geographical concept, creeping housing developments are eating their way westward and threatened to subdivide every square millimeter of that lovely, rolling horse country. A country perfect for foxhunting, in which I participated, and perfect for mounted guerrilla warfare is so brilliantly conducted by John S Mosby.

Just as surely as the land will be subdivided into an upscale Levittown, so the culture and history has to be purged to be replaced by a Levittown of more sinister proportions, political correctness.

Ultimately, the Lost Cause cannot coexist with Cultural Marxism.


17 posted on 05/01/2017 8:25:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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-PJ

23 posted on 05/01/2017 8:35:08 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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“Mosby realized that he was swept up in history and that his loyalty to friends and family made him fight for a cause that he didn’t entirely support.”

This is the opinion of the article's author.

In his Memoirs, Mosby tells it a little different: “No one clung longer to the Confederacy than I did, and I can say with the champion of another lost cause that if Troy could have been saved by this right hand even by the same it would have been saved.”

25 posted on 05/01/2017 8:47:07 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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There were two Mosby TV shows in my era

The term Lost Cause is misapplied if it refers to confederates who opposed sesch

The Lost Cause wasn’t even coined till around 1900 as a reconciliation tool between former foes and then really ingrained in film


28 posted on 05/01/2017 8:54:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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I’m a c19fan fan here and appreciate your efforts

But that War is Boring site is kinda ‘tard


30 posted on 05/01/2017 8:58:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (Multiculturalism: Everyone wants to inhabit the world of white men with no white men in it)
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As a boy, George Patton met Mosby and heard Mosby’s war stories.


47 posted on 05/01/2017 9:52:26 AM PDT by omega4412
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Mosby mastered the 3:00AM raid on the Yanks with very few Yanks being killed and about 1,700 were taken as prisoners including a young General to be used in the prisoner exchange program . Grant halted the prisoner exchange program after the Fort Pillow incident and that’s when the prisons on both sides became vastly over crowed .

Mosby and his partisans never surrendered but were simply allowed to disband instead . My Great ,great , great grandfather Charles Price served in his command and is mentioned in Mosby’s Memoirs .

Mosby was known as a very humane man but had a bad habit of falling out of the saddle .


48 posted on 05/01/2017 9:55:38 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: ISIS is Islam without the lipstick :-()
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The John S. Mosby Highway out from DC and on through Middleburg is one of the most beautiful drives in Virginia. Robert Duvall lives not far off that road on a lovely big horse farm.


65 posted on 05/01/2017 12:00:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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Virginia was part of The United States. Virginians weren’t ‘’defending’’ Virginia. They were attacking The United States.


79 posted on 05/01/2017 5:10:56 PM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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As a descendant of Southern Unionists, I gotta say that you have guts posting this.

One of Obama's greatest crimes is that he seems to have made every conservative a Confederate. It is now From The Chair that the Confederates fought against "big government"--despite the fact that the Fugitive Slave Law was big government at its worst and that the Confederacy's government was at least every bit as big as Lincoln's.

Anyone who believes that Abraham Lincoln presided over a "big government" should have his head examined.

115 posted on 05/02/2017 10:39:08 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Viriycho sogeret umesuggeret mipnei Benei Yisra'el; 'ein yotze' ve'ein ba'.)
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John Mosby, close friend of the Patton family.

Young George grew up listening to Mosby's tales of guerilla fighting in northern Virginia.

149 posted on 05/02/2017 3:36:37 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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