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To: pierrem15

All governments through the world ended slavery in about a 60 year period of time, when it had been ongoing for several centuries, except for some Muslim groups where it is still practiced today.

The war wasn’t about slavery. It was about State’s rights and the War of Northern Aggression. The South ended slavery before the North. The South simply had more plantation and farming slaves than the North.


478 posted on 05/12/2017 6:27:47 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr; pierrem15; rpierce; jeffersondem; DiogenesLamp; Rockingham; PapaBear3625; DoodleDawg
Cvengr: "The war wasn’t about slavery.
It was about State’s rights and the War of Northern Aggression.
The South ended slavery before the North.
The South simply had more plantation and farming slaves than the North."

First: one key point to remember is that in early 1861 there was no war over secession, slavery, states' rights, tariffs, Confederacy or anything else.
For several months secession & Confederacy proceeded relatively peacefully.

War only began in April 1861 when after months of demanding Fort Sumter's surrender, Jefferson Davis ordered a military assault to force it.
So, did Davis order the assault because of slavery, or tariffs?
No, it was because Davis & other Confederates believed Union troops in Fort Sumter "assailed" their "integrity".
Those are Davis' words from his February 1861 inaugural, in which he promised to start war if that happened.

So Lincoln called up 75,000 troops, over slavery or tariff's or even states' rights?
No, to put down an obvious rebellion, insurrection, domestic violence, invasion and soon even treason, all as authorized in the US Constitution.

Slavery was not then the issue but soon became it when thousands of slaves began escaping to Union Army lines, and what were they going to do?
Well, turns out "contraband of war" was recognized in US law and slaves declared "contraband" could then be freed and hired to support the Union Army effort -- some even as soldiers.

Sure, pro-Confederate mantra is "War of Northern Aggression", but in early 1861 Confederates did all the aggressing, not just in the Deep South but also in Union states like Missouri, Maryland & western Virginia.
By war's end Confederates had military forces invade or operating in 14 of 30 remaining Union states & territories.
So it began & continued as a "War of Confederate Aggression".

Second: slavery ended as a lawful institution nationally on December 18, 1865 with ratification of the 13th amendment.
Before that each state had its own peculiar laws or emancipation enforced by Union Army.
To say, "the South ended slavery before the North" is cockamamie unless by "South" you mean Union enforced emancipation and by "North" you mean such slave-states as Delaware, which waited until the 13th amendment went into force.

480 posted on 05/12/2017 7:11:51 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Cvengr

Which “states rights” specifically? The only one the rebel states ever mentioned was the “right” to own other human beings.


481 posted on 05/12/2017 7:17:56 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Cvengr
The war wasn’t about slavery. It was about State’s rights and the War of Northern Aggression. The South ended slavery before the North. The South simply had more plantation and farming slaves than the North.

You are late to the party. Scroll up the 450-plus posts and see just how wrong those two claims are.

483 posted on 05/12/2017 7:34:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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