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Pay Attention...How Much Damage Can a NK H-Bomb Do??
4 Sept 17 | hapnHal

Posted on 09/04/2017 6:00:02 PM PDT by hapnHal

Can North Korean Hydrogen Bomb Evaporate New York in Case of Surface Blast?

How much damage can it cause

Professor of Korean studies at Kookmin University, Seoul, told Al Jazeera that it can completely destroy New York. “Such a device could evaporate the entire city of New York completely – no one would stay alive. With an atomic bomb, you can kill half of Manhattan, at most,” he said. Website Nuclear Secrecy, assesses the damage on New York in case of a blast yielding 50 kilotonnes. Its findings are disturbing.

Effects radii for 50 kiloton surface burst (smallest to largest): Fireball radius: 380 m (0.45 km²) Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation.

If it touches the ground, the amount of radioactive fallout is significantly increased. Air blast radius (20 psi): 0.8 km (2.02 km²) At 20 psi overpressure, heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%.

Radiation radius (500 rem): 1.64 km (8.41 km²) 500 rem radiation dose; without medical treatment, there can be expected between 50% and 90% mortality from acute effects alone. Dying takes between several hours and several weeks.

Air blast radius (5 psi): 1.69 km (8.94 km²) At 5 psi overpressure, most residential buildings collapse, injuries are universal, fatalities are widespread. Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns): 2.87 km (25.9 km²) Third degree burns extend throughout the layers of skin, and are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves. They can cause severe scarring or disablement, and can require amputation. 100% probability for 3rd degree burns at this yield is 9.5 cal/cm2.


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To: dhs12345
. . and within 8 short years the American people elected a tranny named Hussein as Chief Executive - think about that for a moment

If NK nuked NY, I'm sure we'd elect a Korean

61 posted on 09/04/2017 7:28:13 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: hapnHal

Kimmy will try going long, to the degree of nuking Yellowstone, nuking Fukushima, Honolulu or indeed a high altitude emp burst which is the most difficult.

Thing is they cannot shield a device strong enough.
But if they blew up Fukushima the fallout would indeed nearly destroy America.


62 posted on 09/04/2017 7:33:58 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: SpaceBar; Bobalu

Nah, a small dirty bomb at the most.


63 posted on 09/04/2017 7:34:31 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: JohnnyP

The NORK blast sounds like boosted.


64 posted on 09/04/2017 7:34:36 PM PDT by ALASKA (Watching a coup..........)
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To: atc23

People will never learn. Americans seem to be the worst.

IMHO, the problem was Bush — he allowed his political enemies to set the tone and make false accusations. This enabled Obama to win. I do not like Bush for this reason.


65 posted on 09/04/2017 7:35:13 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freedom! The benefits are so obvious by looking at Korea.
If little fatso cared a smidgen about his people he would take his fist off them.

My husband has a lot of stories about Korea..none of them good. They expected something like an 85% casualty rate if things exploded with N.Korea - so they were sitting ducks.


66 posted on 09/04/2017 7:38:06 PM PDT by Aria (i)
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To: hapnHal

If the Chinese are funneling their designs to the Norks, as seems to be the case, they favor 5 Megaton city busters.

For comparison, the US mostly deploys half megaton warheads.


67 posted on 09/04/2017 7:44:26 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: LS

How about taking a shot at Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD)?

CA....


68 posted on 09/04/2017 7:49:01 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: hapnHal

I continue to be amazed that no one is talking about the devastation from an EMP attack, the easiest to do, and one for which the Nork weapons are capable. Properly placed, one of their dinky little devices could take out (irreplaceably) the North American power grid and a large fraction of electronic devices across the US. Read the book ‘One Second After’ (Newt Gingrich forward). Why the President has not explained this to the public .... well, I think they are withholding this for the last discussion ... just before the balloon goes up.


69 posted on 09/04/2017 7:51:12 PM PDT by Check6
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To: Bobalu
That’s a very poor showing for a hydrogen weapon..

Fusion devices are opened ended on maximum yield. The important thing is weight. Perhaps this weapon is at the max deliverable weight for their missiles.

70 posted on 09/04/2017 7:52:16 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud-man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: piytar

EMP is a line-of-sight weapon when detonated in space. 1MT 400 miles over Kansas takes out the North American power grid coast to coast. Period. Lower yield weapons are more effective than very high yield weapons. That 50MT weapon was not detonated in space. Russkies like their electricity.


71 posted on 09/04/2017 7:56:15 PM PDT by Check6
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To: Check6

When Czar Bomba was tested, the Soviets didn’t have the capability of putting anything that big into space. They had a hard enough time just dropping it from a specially modified tupolev bomber and getting away in time.


72 posted on 09/04/2017 8:01:15 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: hapnHal

How about some target practice...missile or bomber

39.040277 deg North
125.739722 deg East

USS Pueblo, Potong River NK
Captured Jan 23, 1968


73 posted on 09/04/2017 8:27:13 PM PDT by hapnHal
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To: airedale

that book 1 second after that seems to be the primary source for everyone’s emp worries is completely absurd and exaggerated and was basically written for some lobbyists to secure a lot of grant money for certain clients

There are two and possibly 5 countries with the wherewithal do successfully pull off a hemp detonation IF it was not intercepted in route—one or a few missiles head this way you can bet that there will be enough countermeasures to stop or at least limit the damage...the norks are far from able to pull this off anytime soon

Also, emp effects are based on long circuits pushing up enough energy to fry stuff....power grid is vulnerable but most vehicles, even modern, would be largely unnaffected, as would generators and other electronics that are not plugged in

I know from personal experience parts of out power grid are protected with basically giant fuses and much of it would be brought back online fairly quickly

If you want something credible to worry about then worry about the c&c systems of the power grid, banking ssytem, and toher critical infrastructure being hacked...there is stuff there that should keep you from sleeping well


74 posted on 09/04/2017 8:27:27 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: piytar
"EMP is over-rated."

That's true.

The EMP threat: fact, fiction, and response (part 1)
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1


75 posted on 09/04/2017 8:37:39 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Manuel OKelley

A hemp detonation. Awesome. Maybe the little fat guy will chill out.


76 posted on 09/04/2017 8:41:26 PM PDT by enduserindy ( I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: Manuel OKelley

It’s the transformers. They are not protected for the most part and already pretty much built on demand, not stockpiled.


77 posted on 09/04/2017 8:43:36 PM PDT by enduserindy ( I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: Rurudyne

There was a study during the cold war that looked at the idea of high altitude detonations to fry the incoming russian nukes just before turnover during midcourse flight. The neat thing about using nukes as interceptors is that close is ok and the emp fries the missiles guidance system.
Mid pacific for NKorea missiles doesn’t even harm the US. The Nike Hercules even had nukes for terminal defence. Better your nuke exploding at 100,000 ft plus than their nuke going off over your city at 2500 ft.
Lofting one or two nukes is a no win for N Korea, which is why we can’t let the pudgy boy king build 50 or 100 missiles and warheads.


78 posted on 09/04/2017 9:05:41 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Waverunner

They actually deployed a nuclear missile as part of a 50s / 60s era system for bomber defense.


79 posted on 09/04/2017 9:10:26 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SpaceBar
Yup, ‘boosted’ fission device at best.

I think the biggest probability is a boosted device and the item in the photo the Norks released a couple days ago was put together using pictures found on the Internet just for scare purposes. There is a chance that they actually got all the proper components and the technology from someone else.

On the same line of thinking, did they get a guidance system that can actually put the device where they want it. even then they have shown the reliability of their missile airframes is not the best.

80 posted on 09/04/2017 9:44:37 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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