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Will the USS Gerald Ford be remembered as the doomed Yamato of the carrier era?
http://foreignpolicy.com/ ^ | 9/14/17 | THOMAS E. RICKS,Dan Nidess

Posted on 09/14/2017 6:34:49 PM PDT by BBell

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To: Lurker

Exactly. Short of a nuke, it would take an enormous amount of ordinance - or a couple of well-placed torpedoes - to sink a CV. And the delivery systems would have to get close enough to deploy, and then run through a gauntlet of defensive mechanisms, of the jamming as well as live-fire variety.

Our AA systems (especially the AA gattling guns on the smaller ships) are designed to intercept and deal with anything that get through the outer cordon and comes down to sea level (aka - cruise missile type weapons) for the final run at the target.


61 posted on 09/14/2017 9:36:45 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: Simon Foxx

Given recent events, the phrase “The USS Gerald Ford DOES” should read “The USS Gerald Ford DID”.

A working catapult would help also.


62 posted on 09/15/2017 3:24:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: central_va

Then soon after the 100’s of missiles fired would hit every ship in the fleet.


63 posted on 09/15/2017 6:26:23 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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Then soon after the 100’s of missiles fired would hit every ship in the fleet.

Hundreds of missiles? What are you talking about? Do the ChiComs pay these anti A/C nuts to post here?

64 posted on 09/15/2017 6:28:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The U.S. Navy has some 4,000 Tomahawks.
http://www.defenseone.com/business/2017/04/us-about-stop-buying-tomahawk-missiles-ones-hit-syria/136866/

The Chinese or some other enemy would use their missiles on the approaching fleet. I would think they have as many or more if war is coming.
Our subs need to be converted to fire many more missiles then they do now to take out theirs prior to the navy ships getting close but that would be difficult as they can be on land or sea or air platforms. Their iPhone factories would be converted to making iMissiles by the thousands.


65 posted on 09/15/2017 8:14:12 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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The simple answer is you stay offshore at the maximum range of the threat until the ASM missile threat is neutralized. If the range is 1,000 NM then stay that for away. At 1,000 nm you get a 1 1/2hour (90 minutes) warning. You've never been in the Navy have you?
66 posted on 09/15/2017 11:12:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Don’t need to be to know missiles are much faster then any ship.
The Navy fired 60 at a single runway in the article I linked to. How many do you think our enemies will fire to sink our ships. As many as needed.


67 posted on 09/15/2017 12:01:04 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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Ok you are not paying attention. If the ASM cruise missile attack starts 1000 nm from the CVBG then they ( us, the good guys )get 90 minutes to launch the entire air wing and hunt down all the incoming. This kind of long range attack is what the Navy trains for. Cruise missiles are dumb. They don't maneuver . In the mid course phase they are at a constant altitude and cannot maneuver. Basically they are target drones. Also in 90 minutes at a base course speed of 25 knots, the CVBG is going to be ~40nm from the initial target reference point so those missiles will require at least one update, maybe two. This attack you envision is doomed to failure.

But you are the Naval warfare expert here and not me. So you win the argument. /sarcasm

68 posted on 09/15/2017 12:40:06 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

The chinese would also use ballistic missiles.


69 posted on 09/15/2017 5:27:27 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: azcap

Yep. The near future will see swarms of cheap, expendable robotics run by remote crews. Technology has scant respect for tradition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmT-3LN6jko


70 posted on 09/15/2017 5:41:09 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Why defend the EU?)
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