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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“One good turn deserves another! Right!

Fidel Castro was a target of the CIA’s secret armies dozens of times from 1959-2000. Their never-ending failure to oust Fidel Castro from power kept Havana on edge. Castro would have every reason to to retaliate.

Castro grooming Oswald as “the presumed assassin” was first promoted by CIA propagandists in Miami 11/24/63. It would validate Oswald’s motive by linking his desire to block Kennedy’s goal to assassinate Castro or overthrow the Cuban government. But the Oswald-Cuban letters turned out to be bogus and that theory quickly loss momentum.

Russian involvement at Dealey Plaza has not been a real popular theory.”
“One good turn deserves another! Right!

Fidel Castro was a target of the CIA’s secret armies dozens of times from 1959-2000. Their never-ending failure to oust Fidel Castro from power kept Havana on edge. Castro would have every reason to to retaliate.

Castro grooming Oswald as “the presumed assassin” was first promoted by CIA propagandists in Miami 11/24/63. It would validate Oswald’s motive by linking his desire to block Kennedy’s goal to assassinate Castro or overthrow the Cuban government. But the Oswald-Cuban letters turned out to be bogus and that theory quickly loss momentum.

Russian involvement at Dealey Plaza has not been a real popular theory.”

So, tell me, why on earth would Markus Wolfe, a Stasi operative and spymaster, point fingers at Castro when asked about the subject? He obviously wouldn’t have been on the CIA’s payroll, so he really isn’t doing it to aid them in any propaganda efforts? And besides, somehow, I don’t think the Mitrokhin Archives would have been written by the CIA, and if anything were more likely to be written by the KGB seeing how, you know, they CAME from the KGB archives. And the Mitrokhin Archives definitely confirmed that, at the very least the Soviets WERE involved in much of the disinformation campaign regarding the Kennedy Assassination, something that wouldn’t make any sense at all if they were truly not involved in any way in that event.

“So you believe a Soviet Bloc defector over Ronald Reagan.

Why am I not surprised?”

So why don’t you believe Pacepa, then? This isn’t just your run of the mill Soviet Bloc defector, this guy had been invaluable for covering the exact extent of various Soviet intelligence operations, including why Che Guevara is a leftist icon rather than in the dustbin of history where he belongs, how the anti-Vietnam crowd managed to get as much prevalence as it did, the whole demonization of Pope Pius XII as a Nazi supporter, and all of that shebang, or at the very least managed to confirm definitively that they were indeed Soviet KGB operations (heck, he actually helped PLAN several of them).


204 posted on 10/23/2017 6:12:12 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

And for the record, I have no problem with Ronald Reagan. I even think he’s among our best presidents, but that DOESN’T mean he is completely right about everything. As a matter of fact, Pacepa was VERY careful to avoid inferring that Morris and Jack Childs were deliberately trying to BS the FBI or anyone else. So again, I really don’t understand what your beef is against Pacepa?


205 posted on 10/23/2017 6:14:04 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

“...why on earth would Markus Wolfe, a Stasi operative and spymaster, point fingers at Castro when asked about the subject?”

IDK.

“so he really isn’t doing it to aid them in any propaganda efforts?”

My comment was not referring to Wolfe, in particular but to other operatives, like the ones that maintained Oswald’s 201 file.- The Ghost.

“...at the very least the Soviets WERE involved in much of the disinformation campaign regarding the Kennedy Assassination, something that wouldn’t make any sense at all if they were truly not involved in any way in that event.”

Not necessarily. Never let a crisis go to waste. And we had a biggie.

“So you believe a Soviet Bloc defector over Ronald Reagan.”

This comment you intended for FR Pelham post #203, not me.

I love RR, but not sure what interest or disinterest he had in JFK. Nor what classified information was shared with him or the other presidents that followed.

As for government agents and spies- they are in the business of lying and not revealing the truth unless it benefits their interest. There’s plenty of disinformation and redirection in all aspects of their business. It’s just the nature of the beast.


206 posted on 10/23/2017 7:02:06 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: otness_e

“...why on earth would Markus Wolfe, a Stasi operative and spymaster, point fingers at Castro when asked about the subject?”

IDK.

“so he really isn’t doing it to aid them in any propaganda efforts?”

My comment was not referring to Wolfe, in particular but to other operatives, like the ones that maintained Oswald’s 201 file.- The Ghost.

“...at the very least the Soviets WERE involved in much of the disinformation campaign regarding the Kennedy Assassination, something that wouldn’t make any sense at all if they were truly not involved in any way in that event.”

Not necessarily. Never let a crisis go to waste. And we had a biggie.

“So you believe a Soviet Bloc defector over Ronald Reagan.”

This comment you intended for FR Pelham post #203, not me. Click on the post that you choose to reply to- rather than the last post on the thread.

I love RR, but not sure what interest or disinterest he had in JFK. Nor what classified information was shared with him or the other presidents that followed.

As for government agents and spies- they are in the business of lying and not revealing the truth unless it benefits their interest. There’s plenty of disinformation and redirection in all aspects of their business. It’s just the nature of the beast. Some are more ruthless than others when it comes to how people disappear when they are no longer useful, or pose a risk.


207 posted on 10/23/2017 7:07:46 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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