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Roy Moore may have been banned from local mall: Report
Washington Examiner ^ | 11-13-2017 | Diana Correll

Posted on 11/14/2017 6:10:11 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist

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To: DoodleDawg

If he walks away, he should say that after seeing the quality and integrity of those in the Senate, he does not wish to join a body that will use unverifiable slander to overturn an election and subvert the vote of the people.


161 posted on 11/14/2017 7:30:41 AM PST by dforest
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

You do know he’s not the one who made that defense, don’t you? That was Jim Ziegler, Alabama State Auditor. Moore can’t stop people from saying stuff like this anymore than he can stop the stupid accusations.

WASHINGTON — An Alabama state official is citing the Bible to defend the Republican U.S. Senate candidate accused of sexual advances on girls. State auditor Jim Ziegler says “Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter,” suggesting that Roy Moore acted in a divine tradition if he in fact made sexual advances toward a 14-year-old girl.


162 posted on 11/14/2017 7:33:21 AM PST by suthener
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To: nwrep

Please return to democrat underground . Be gone.


163 posted on 11/14/2017 7:36:23 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Are you daft

You think a mall would ban a district attorney

Man this forum has the highest idiocrcy I’ve seen since Bush worship

Which I occasionally indulged in


164 posted on 11/14/2017 7:39:41 AM PST by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: ScottinVA

I agree with you to a point. I believe more than
just lefties are involved in this coordinated
political assassination.

165 posted on 11/14/2017 7:43:02 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Democrats are using the past to divide us now because America rejected their plan for our future.)
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To: odawg
“...holding off these accusations until it’s too late to change the ballot.” Has nothing to do with it. It is their version of the “October surprise” — wound the opponent when he doesn’t have time to heal.

Oh, they're accomplishing that. But the ballot issue is icing on the cake for them.

166 posted on 11/14/2017 7:45:04 AM PST by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

The word “May” = nope


167 posted on 11/14/2017 7:46:00 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: wardaddy

I pointed that out in one of these threads.

EVERYONE would have known and there would have been ample documentation to cover their butts.

And it WOULD have come out in previous political races.


168 posted on 11/14/2017 7:49:05 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: PLMerite
Wikipedia is not a competent source in this case. Children before puberty are the focus of pedophiles. No suggestion of that here.

Very, very strange that these allegations appear in the final days of the campaign. As far as I am concerned he is innocent of any crime. I trust Alabama voters to elect him, they know him best.

169 posted on 11/14/2017 7:50:39 AM PST by PsyCon
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To: Black Agnes

Freepers are prone to hysterics

And tough monkers rarely indicate that


170 posted on 11/14/2017 7:57:54 AM PST by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: goodnesswins
6 years as others have probably already said

Two years. This is to finish out Sessions' term which began in 2014. Moore will be up for re-election in 2020.

171 posted on 11/14/2017 8:00:12 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: wardaddy

There are some that just have no idea about politics and social mores in small towns in the rural south 40 years ago.

No way would banning from the mall be ‘sekrit’ for 40 years. It would literally have been the talk of the town. TV’s weren’t useful after midnight, no email, no computers, no internet. Nothing to do but gossip about each other. And I guarantee you an assistant DA being banned from the local mall for being a creeper WOULD have been MUCH discussed at the time.


172 posted on 11/14/2017 8:00:51 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: EdnaMode
Look, I am not outright saying these women didn't know Moore or the he wasn't hitting on them looking for dates and possibly a wife. I don't know and I really don't care about that.

What I do care about is evidence that something untoward happened. None of these women's stories are credible because they offer no evidence whatsoever. And they conveniently wait almost 40 years to mention it to the press. Suspect? Absolutely!

Innuendo that he was trolling young girls (if they were 16, they were at the age of consent and would be considered women at that point) is not enough. All men troll women for dates, sex and wives. It's called biology.

But to rise to allegations of sexual misconduct of some kind, let's see some hard evidence. Something. Anything. But all we have so far is just "she said". Not enough in my book or in the eyes of the law to pin anything on Moore.

The mere fact that he is not getting due process is why I say enough is enough. Put up or shut up ladies. Otherwise, it's all BS.

173 posted on 11/14/2017 8:01:31 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Ever read a news article about global warming?

There you will find loads of words like “could”, “might”, “as much as”, “possibly”, “more research”, “aren’t entirely sure”, “uncertainty”, “imperfect knowledge”, and (surprise!) “may”.


174 posted on 11/14/2017 8:02:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Ah...my mistake.


175 posted on 11/14/2017 8:03:35 AM PST by goodnesswins (There were 1.41 MILLION NON Profit orgs in 2013 with $1.73 TRILLION in REVENUE)
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To: wyowolf
are you crazy?? this is TOTALLY normal for grown men to cruise for little girls!*

*as long as there is an R after the name.

Its in the Bible!

Ahem. First of all, fourteen may be, indeed generally is, emotionally immature. But “little?” Not so much - that’s when *many* girls attain their adult size (or at least, the size they as adults in later life wish they could get back to). Give them a pair of glasses and the right wardrobe, and they can pass for older.

There is a cultural shift that has taken place over the past century; in times past women were kept out of most professions - they even had to fight to create the nursing profession, and otherwise teaching school was about it. The upshot being, that girls were expected to be homemakers, and they could reasonably expect to learn that craft from experienced mentors - their own mothers.

Boys, likewise, were almost exclusively expected to grow up to be farmers, and had their fathers for mentors. In America but not everywhere else, boys could obtain land and be situated to be able to support a family (always allowing for the fact that children were expected to provide real help in that endeavor).

In the Old World, boys could not go to the frontier and homestead on land - none was available for the taking. I remember specifically reading about Ireland. There, a boy didn’t have the ability to support a family until he inherited his father’s farm - thus, was effectively an adolescent until his father’s death. In consequence marriage would routinely be between a mature man and, very possibly nay likely, a teenaged girl. If you watch the movie, “The Quiet Man,” you will note that when John Wayne and Maureen O’Hara (wasn’t it her?) have the bans read, she is referred to as, “spinster.”

The girl who was raised doing chores around the house, notably including cooking could, if motivated to learn, be quite prepared to function as a homemaker as a young teen. And, if properly nourished, would attract male attention quite readily. The age of marriage for a girl would depend on parental consent, and hopefully parental wisdom - but girls typically didn’t reach the age of 20 single. As recently as 1955 nearly every girl in a high school class I knew was married within a year of high school graduation. The boys, not so much. Note that I did not say “men.” Those girls were not all marrying classmates, and they certainly weren’t marrying younger boys.

The upshot is that while 30 marrying 14 would seem a stretch today, it would have been scarcely remarkable in earlier times. One of my grandmothers married at 14 or 16 (can’t remember which) - and both my grandmothers married widowers, each with a son who survived his mother. Today, girls are expected to have careers outside the home, and don’t always marry until college graduation, if then. It is, as I say, a cultural shift - the planted axiom of which is that adulthood begins not when a girl can maintain a household but when the couple both have qualified for professions. Qualified by higher education, and for professions, not merely “careers.”

As to the title of this thread, I associate myself with those who notice “may” and wonder if there is any “there" at all, there. I mean, the hit on Moore obviously was shaky without any allegations of questionable behavior more recent than 1978, so obviously they needed to go there - but “may?” Really?


176 posted on 11/14/2017 8:06:13 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

You are pro abortion of undesirables and pro homosexual marriage.


177 posted on 11/14/2017 8:11:57 AM PST by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

The only difference i see is, back in farming days in Iowa etc, it was pretty common for people to marry very young... but it wasn’t the age gap. ie 30 yr to 15 or 16.

My aunt and uncle married when he was 16 she was 15. They are still married today.. 70 yrs.


178 posted on 11/14/2017 8:13:31 AM PST by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
This story is base don "rumor", and "anonymous source's", while I agree, if the allegations are true, he should not be in the Senate, I have not seen one single piece of evidence that bears any of these allegations out.

First, there are holes in the 14 year old accusers story, such as the fact the mother came out and stated that she did not have a phone in her room. She claimed that the number she gave to Moore was a private number she had to her room. That is a central component of her accusation.

The recent accuser, who claims that Moore attempted to rape her, it looks like there is a pretty good chance that the signature in her yearbook is a not so good forgery.

Then we get to the abhorrent fact that he admits to dating teenagers when he was in his early 30's. The average age women get married now is 27, in the 70's it was 21, and in the South, it was even younger.

People are holding Moore to a social standard that has changed. Yes, a 32 year old dating a teenage high school graduate, today, would be against social mor, mainly because there are plenty of available women for marriage.

In 1977, Roy Moore had just graduated law school, after serving in the military, and graduating from West Point. He was 32, and single, and looking for a relationship, whom should he date? Women of that period, particularly in the South, married straight out of high school, or waited to marry their sweethearts after graduating college.

The available pool of marriageable women consisted of those leaving high school unmarried. This is why the women who Moore admits to dating, have said that their mothers approved of the relationship. Put in today's contexts, that in itself would be abhorrent! Also, the stories told by those 18 and 19 year olds that I do believe he likely dated, completely goes against the nature of the stories told by the younger, much less reliable accusations.

I find it beyond repugnant that people are not allowing Moore the right to defend himself. What are we going to do next October, when I guarantee that at least 20 Republicans are going to have similar accusations against them? Heck, I'm personally saving money to make sure one is thrown at Romney myself!!
179 posted on 11/14/2017 8:15:42 AM PST by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: JerseyRepub

****Please stop being silly. This is a serious matter****

P!ss off dirtbag.


180 posted on 11/14/2017 8:18:21 AM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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