Posted on 01/02/2018 3:44:34 PM PST by Morgana
Imagine the frustration of a fifth grade math teacher trying to teach fifth-grade math to someone with no ability to learn it. Is that the case here? We can't tell from the article.
We have transformed our public schools such that they now teach to the lowest ability level and are expected to act as baby-sitters for children who do not belong in their classroom. How could such policies not result in cynical teachers? We do know that the math teacher was attempting to contact the parent with concerns.
Nowadays, everything is a federal case.
I agree with your assessment, and it’s getting worse.
Yep!
“According to the article, the girl had previously been in a special needs program of some kind. That program had been discontinued, apparently without the knowledge of the parent.
Imagine the frustration of a fifth grade math teacher trying to teach fifth-grade math to someone with no ability to learn it. Is that the case here? We can’t tell from the article. “
I know of kids like this who have gone through public schools. Severe mental retardation. Some so bad they can’t even write their own name. If you ask me it’s a complete waste of time. They are put in classrooms with normal kids like it’s going to help and it does not do a bit of good. One mom I know got upset because her severely mentally retarded son failed music. Well gee, he can’t read, write, and worse yet? He can’t even sing!
I don’t want to sound mean or anything but besides being limited in vocabulary he does nothing but holler and screech till your ears are bleeding. Well the poor teacher changed it from an F to a D but if you ask me the kid got an F in everything just stating a plain simple fact. His IQ is about 50 or below.
Think really this kid would have benefited from have a school just for special needs kids that maybe would have helped him in specialized areas. Really for the most part in public schools, as far as I could see he was just a seat warmer. He was there because of a state or federal law, but other than socialization not sure it really did him any good.
Because they are teachers, which means they likely are Democrats...And that's what Democrats do...
My wife has a relative who was born very prematurely. This resulted in somewhat impaired vision, very impaired hearing, and what is now called "developmental disability".
He's a nice guy, lives by himself with his dog, and appreciates the help he gets from the family. One quirk that he has is that he plays a musical instrument; at least, he thinks he does. Most of us find it quite remarkable that he has no clue that he doesn't.
Despite his problems, he worked for many years as a janitor. I can't imagine him in a fifth-grade math class. It's a struggle for him to play simple card games.
Life ain't fair. I didn't get all the breaks growing up but I made out far better than he. The drive for "fairness" is destroying the nation.
Homeowners here in Pennsylvania lose their homes if they can’t afford to pay the school/property taxes that pay for the cushy retirements of these losers.
There’s a movement to try to eliminate school/property taxes in Pa. It lost by one vote three years ago when the democrat lieutenant gov broke the tie. Our legislators are in the pocket of the teachers union.
Pa. Taxpayers Cyber Coalition:
http://www.ptcc.us/
NJ is firmly in the grip of teachers’ unions; we have among the highest property tax burdens in the country to pay for them, their benefits, and their retirements. It can no longer be concealed, and as a result taxpayers and their employers are fleeing; nobody wants to move here and buy a share in that massive IOU.
As s result, more and more areas are left with the Welfarians, public employees, and hordes of immigrants (illegal or otherwise) to keep housing and schools occupied. If the borders were controlled NJ would have a LOT of ghost towns. Slightly more than 30% of Jerseyans speak a language other than English at home; that is a very telling (and depressing) statistic.
Many parents resist having their children classified as “special” because they know they’ll be shunted to a closet rather than schooled. “Mainstreaming” them (putting them with other students) doesn’t really work because they can be extremely disruptive - so nobody learns.
That must have been a long time ago; summer jobs (camp counselors and such) used to be popular with teachers to supplement their part-time income - now they just earn high full-time pay with great benefits for 180 six and a half hour days.
Maybe the settlement should come from the union, not the taxpayers.
Property taxes are THEFT BY GOVT! The burden is on the property owner to pay and even if your house is paid off, it’s still not really yours because you can lose it if you don’t pay the taxes. Thousands of people in Pa lose their homes to tax sale every year - probably the same in NJ?
If we in Pa can get House/Senate Bill 76 passed, it would guarantee that no one would lose their home because they can’t afford the taxes. The current system is archaic and worked in times when we were an agrarian society. It does not work now.
The plan is to raise the state tax by a small percentage and to raise the sales tax from 6 percent to 7 percent.
NO ONE SHOULD LOSE THEIR HOME BECAUSE THEY CAN’T PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES!
The vice principal in my high school was rumored to have a summer job as a prison guard. That was easy to believe given his build, he could have been a pro wrestler. A really nice guy, but you didn’t want to mess with him.
We had a little help from NJ with a cap on increases of 2%; if they want 4% raises there are just less teachers the next year (and that is exactly what happened).
The point about losing a paid-off home is a good one; people here have wisened up to the fact that when they “buy” homes they are only renting them from the teachers’ unions, so nobody wants the homes now except other government workers or 1%ers.
My niece told me that this girl had bitten and kicked other students and teachers and one day, unprovoked, pushed a 2nd grader down a flight of stairs. She was also very disruptive in class and needed a full time Learning Support Assistant (not my niece) to stay with her all day in an attempt to keep her under control and perhaps try to help her learn something, anything.
When she’d act up, she was taken out the classroom, sometimes to a desk in a hallway but had to be brought back to the classroom once she calmed down. After the time she pushed the 2nd grader down the stairs, her mother and the police came (actually the police came because they called 9-11 out of concern the 2nd grader might have been injured to the point of needing medical attention). As a result of that incident, the girl was suspended indefinitely.
The school and school district tried numerous times to convince this girl’s mother that her daughter simply didn’t belong in a regular school and would greatly benefit from being in a special school where they could provide more one on one instruction and specialized therapies. They also thought perhaps the reason her daughter was acting out, sometimes violently, was because she was frustrated trying to keep up in a grade and classroom where she simply didn’t belong.
But the mother was some sort of disabled rights advocate, ran a non-profit for that cause and part of a national org and a big believer in “main streaming” and threatened to sue the school district unless they allowed her daughter back. She had also threatened to sue the school district if they didn’t promote her daughter to the next grade level each year, even though her daughter in no way qualified to move on. IIRC, I think the mother also insisted her daughter be in the school orchestra and in choir, even after she had smashed and pretty much destroyed several instruments and her singing consisted of screams and sometimes laced with profanities. She wanted her daughter to be treated just the same as any other kid without recognizing that her child wasn’t.
I don’t know if the teachers and school administrated “hated” the girl but they were certainly frustrated in having to deal with her at the expense of it taking their time away from kids who were capable of learning but they certain didn’t have very nice things to say about her mother.
Around that same time, my niece was a Learning Support Assistant to a boy in the 5th grade who was profoundly Autistic.
My niece had to sit next to this boy for several hours a day in an attempted to try to keep him focused. She said he was actually smart in but only in some limited areas. He was very good at some types of math and enjoyed it but only if it interested him. He had the amazing ability to, if you told him the day and date and hour of your birth, could very quickly calculate in his head your age, not only in years but in months and days even down to the hour. And he loved doing that and was somewhat fixated on it.
Otherwise when it came to other areas of instruction, reading or history, etc. he would become bored and then frustrated and act out and sometimes as with the Downs Syndrome girl, get disruptive or even sometimes violent. My niece would have to take him out of the classroom and into a hallway desk, set up especially for him and have him work on puzzles or things that interested him until he calmed down.
He could write his name but sort of what you would except a kindergartener to do, but he couldn’t read or participate in any classroom activities.
FWIW, she told me that there were some students in her classroom who were lagging a bit behind but had the potential to learn with some help, but she had no time to help them because all her time was spent on the Autistic boy.
The “mainstreaming” of kids like the two I described above not only doesn’t help them, it actually hurts them, but most of all it hurts the kids who are not learning disabled because of all the time and resources that are redirected to those who should not be mainstreamed into a regular school in the first place.
The mom, and the teachers.
Claysville Elementary School:
Ms. Sheryl Fleck, Principal, flecks@mcguffey.k12.pa.us
Long time! 1950s!
I believe everything you just told me. Have seen it before. Know a lot about down syndrome and 99.9% of the time they are sweet and loving. Once in a while though you get an odd ball that is violent.
Look at this story below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7VuC0wGCg4
https://www.abqjournal.com/323878/disabled-student-held-in-jail-for-6-hours.html
Teachers had warned the principal this kid was problem three times but no one listened the mom cries bloody murder when the boy was arrested. I’m like “good” but him in jail now they will control him. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to make these parents control their brat even if it’s a special needs brat.
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